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Old 09-13-2008, 05:55 AM     Post subject: Controlling tilt by limiting my play #1 (permalink)  
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I get bored/frustrated after playing for long (depending on whether im running good or bad respectively) and i think it's a good idea for me to have a certain stopping point. For example if i'm up 3 buyins or down 2 buyins then i have to stop. No ifs ands or buts.

The reason for this is because today i started really playing poorly after getting set over set within minutes apart. I started playing recklessly and had I been running a little bit worst, it would've ended up hurting my BR a lot.

Can anyone suggest a good stopping point? I think my next session I'll implement the -2 BI's/+3 BI's rule
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Old 09-13-2008, 07:30 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I think when attempting to control tilt you have to find something that works for you personaly. I like useing a BI stop limit (but often have trouble sticking to it) but the exact number is something you have to decided for yourself. I just started useing a -2 BI stop limit and I feel I have saved alot of money that I would have otherwise tilted off.

I don't see why you would want a +stop limit. Provided you are playing good, focusd poker why stop. Ride your hot streaks!
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Old 09-13-2008, 01:04 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I think -2 BI limit is a very bad idea.

I sat down today and within 400 hands i'd had king high flush < nut flush, been set over setted twice and had kings run into runner runner 4 to a flush board and had to fold.

In total that put me down just over 3 buy ins but i did nothing wrong. I didn't tilt from it because it happens, and with a set i'm never not going all in.

As long as you are happy with your play so far then there's no need to stop. Obviously if you think that you are paying off too light or have started seeing monsters then taking a break is always a good idea

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Old 09-13-2008, 03:00 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Bad luck can't hurt you in the long run. But if you start to play worse because of it than it can. I had a badluck streak 2 days ago for about 800 hands. I never hit sets, lost witch my pocket Aces and if I had a hand everyone folded. After that 800 hands I semi-tilted and started playing to many hands.
I lost 7 buyins of witch only 3 to bad play. But I cold have avoided those 3 if I stopped earlier.
So if you like me start to play a bit worse after some badluck it might be better to stop before this happens.
badluck streak+ even a tiny bit of tilt= big losses.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:24 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I think -2 BI limit is a very bad idea.
Like I said it's a personal thing. If you can lose a few BI shrug and then go back to playing your A game more power to ya.

Myself after -2BI I am tilted.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:25 AM #6 (permalink)  
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When I get stacked and I have a different reaction than I normally have. This seething "this guys retarded" type of hatred for my opponents.. I'm on tilt.

I recognized it last time, but only after I pissed away 3 BI's chasing. Next time tho.. oh next time!
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 09-14-2008, 06:27 AM #7 (permalink)  
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If you recognize that you are on tilt, you prolly are not actually on tilt...

I've found that it helps to recognize that most people at the table want to be the Buddha, but nobody wants to be the wall, so if you can, write something on the wall...

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Old 09-14-2008, 08:31 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 numbers are always a bad idea, since its called being "results oriented"

a better approach would be to recognize if you are playing well or badly, and then proceed. how to recognize this is all up to you.

well = keep playing

badly = call it a day
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:32 AM #9 (permalink)  
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I think -2 BI limit is a very bad idea.
Like I said it's a personal thing. If you can lose a few BI shrug and then go back to playing your A game more power to ya.

Myself after -2BI I am tilted.
Ok fair enough saying it was a very bad idea was a bit of a sweeping generalisation.

There maybe times when you can lose 2 buy ins over a relatively long period of time when you've been playing well and got unlucky then start trying to play back at the idiot that 2 outered you and hence start playing badly.

Then again there may be times where you lose 2 buy ins on the first revolution at the tables you've sat down at.
Do you really leave when you've only just sat down for like 2 minutes?
Maybe if they are coolers and you've accepted that coolers exist you can stay. Or maybe it might be best to just pick yourself up off the table give yourself a 10 minute break and start again, but i always think of those chips as invested.

If you've just sat down and dropped 2 buy ins with good hands it gives you an image that you're not going to be pushed around. (Especially if it was something like AK on a Q98 board all-in on the flop).

Then again all my sessions nowadays start with me losing and proceeding to try and make the money back... so take it with a pinch of salt lol.

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Old 09-15-2008, 06:40 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Do you really leave when you've only just sat down for like 2 minutes?
Not always, but if i was smarter i would.

After -2BI i'm ether done for the day or wach a DVD. I need a solid break to get my head strait. I tilt bad and I think rather then trying to overcome it (and lose more BIs in the learning prosess) it is better (for myself) to simply stop playing when tilted.

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Old 09-15-2008, 09:40 AM #11 (permalink)  
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I had a badluck streak the last three days ago for about 6000 hands. .
fyp with my weekend...
it's funny what tilts me.
hands like AA vs QJ on a Q84 board - where I'm about 80-20 favourite when the money goes in and I'm relaxed if a jack hits, but if board comes 9T for the runner runner straight I go crazy...
I also hate when top set gets busted
psychology eh.

yeah, shit like this means i should probably take a breather:

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($31.60)
UTG ($112.55)
UTG+1 ($61.40)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($113.30)
MP3 ($38.75)
CO ($51.45)
Button ($152.45)
Hero (SB) ($50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $16, 2 folds, Hero raises to $49.50, UTG+1 calls $33.50

Flop: ($100.50) 2, Q, K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $0.50

Turn: ($101.50) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($101.50) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $101.50 | Rake: $3

Results in white below:
Hero had A, A (two pair, Aces and sixes).
UTG+1 had J, 6 (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $98.50
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 09-15-2008, 09:50 AM #12 (permalink)  

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Best way to get rid of Tilt is to suck out on someone.. Buuuut i would recommend playing it safe and just log off for a while
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:39 AM #13 (permalink)  
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orgasms are really good way of relieving tilt... jus remember to wipe your hands before you start playing again.
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orgasms are really good way of relieving tilt... jus remember to wipe your hands before you start playing again.
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:04 PM #15 (permalink)  
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i dont know if it's already been said, but...

i would implement a target hands number...not won/lost numbers.

if you like to play 4 tables at 50 hands/hr, and can only play 2 hours before tilting, you would play 400 hands and take a break.

etc etc
LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
 
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:43 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Also, another target should possibly be time factor... I find that since I play in the evenings after work, I have to set a time limit... if I exceed it by a fair margin I begin trying to 'squeeze' that turnip and expect cash to drip out... all that happens is I start losing hands I shouldn't even have been playing because I'm tired...

Time can play a big factor... factor in breaks and also if you're tired stop playing... I find it helps me stop the losing while exhausted syndrome.
 
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:14 PM #17 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by daven
Turn: ($101.50) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($101.50) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $101.50 | Rake: $3

Results in white below:
Hero had A, A (two pair, Aces and sixes).
UTG+1 had J, 6 (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $98.50
as painful as it was for you, thanks for showing this. made my day a little brighter
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:29 PM #18 (permalink)  
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 Just don't look at how much you are up or down until after your session. Or instead, only look at the end of every day. Knowing how your doing in a session can only hurt your play imho. If you are playing bad, you could potentially tilt and lose more due to foolish play. And if you are up you may pass on plays because you don't want to potentially lose your profit even if you know the right play to take.

I used to look constantly throughout a session to see how well I was doing, but now I only look at the end of the session and it has been a relieving experience. Plus it feels really good when you think you are breakeven or down and your actually up.
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