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In an effort to further help us feeshes, maybe we should have a deffinate Q & A thread for new commers, and sticky. I was just thinking we post some stuff here as suggestions, not as the actual thread obviously. Instead of trying to explain I'll just give a few examples.(remember these are just my feesh answers, please critique(sp?) )
Q: Can I fold KK pre-flop?
A: No.
Q: When do I move up(stakes)?
A place BR Management links here)
Q: Should I visit this IRC?
A: LFDO!!! (this isn't a plug, I just couln't think of a third.)
ANYWAY, just something to think about. Maybe it's redundant. IDKI'MAFEESH
BTW: This isn't supposed to act as some quick-fix solve all for fishy leaks, just as a refference for some of the naturally repeated questions.
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wellrounded08
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Ohh yeah, my third/fourth was going to be about when to leave a table, and when to end your session.
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4. I can't beat these fkn donks at 2-10nl what the hell am I doing wrong to get sucked out on all the time?
A. Nothing keep playing standard ABC pokah and get your monies in good and things will turn in the right direction.
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I damage threads that may actually benefit some posters
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This might be a stretch but:
Q: I've heard some of these poker sites are rigged to create big pots. Is there any truth to this whatsoever?
A: No. (maybe a link to some previous threads here)
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yeah there's an FAQ in the announcements of the forum, but it's pretty old and should be updated. This is a good way to start!
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The first question should be about AA, not KK.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
The first question should be about AA, not KK.
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Bigstack in a satellite on the bubble.
But seriously, we have that one at least once a month: Villain is (insert donkstats here) over 100 hands - should I fold?
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I almost folded KK pf today at 10nl, guy was running 10/5 and hadnt seen him 3bet in over 100 hands and he5bet shoved my 4bet, and I stacked him when I hit a K on flop vs AA.
So I think you can fold KK even at Micros, but only against probably 1% of villains.
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I didn't think its Bold to bang some chick with my bro. but i guess so... thats +EV in my book.
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Originally Posted by ProZachNation
I almost folded KK pf today at 10nl, guy was running 10/5 and hadnt seen him 3bet in over 100 hands and he5bet shoved my 4bet, and I stacked him when I hit a K on flop vs AA.
So I think you can fold KK even at Micros, but only against probably 1% of villains.
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Q: Can I fold KK preflop?
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
The first question should be about AA, not KK.
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I nearly folded AA in a sattelite that I almost was sure to cash because I had a middle stack vs. a lot of shorties and a huge stack
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Robb
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
The first question should be about AA, not KK.
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I nearly folded AA in a sattelite that I almost was sure to cash because I had a middle stack vs. a lot of shorties and a huge stack |
Doesn't surprise me.
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The first question should be about AA, not KK.
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Bigstack in a satellite on the bubble. |
Wroooong.
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The first question should be about AA, not KK.
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I nearly folded AA in a sattelite that I almost was sure to cash because I had a middle stack vs. a lot of shorties and a huge stack |
This is closer to being a correct spot to do so depending on the exact situation.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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The first question should be about AA, not KK.
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Bigstack in a satellite on the bubble. |
Wroooong. |
Wroooooooooooong
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I would raise KK and call off small stacks. Big stack on the bubble could minraise any 2 every hand. No reason not to try to bust the bubble yourself with KK if the opportunity presents itself.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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oskar
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If you have enough to blind yourself down for another two hours and there are 10% left before you're ITM, anything but sitting out would be a waste of time and energy imo. You are already guaranteed a seat, unless they defy all chances and manage to redistribute the chips in such a way that they all make it long enough to survive you.
The risk of getting yourself involved in any pot, even as a 4:1 favorite is not worth it because YOU HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN.
*caugh*
I'm sure you can put this in an easy formula based on prize to get ITM according to general expectation/stack and see how good your chances actually are. The one thing you can probably do that is profitable is to stall if there's no hand-for-hand.
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The first question should be about AA, not KK.
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Bigstack in a satellite on the bubble. |
Wroooong. |
Wroooooooooooong |
Wroooooooooooooooooooooooooong.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Derail so soon?
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The first question should be about AA, not KK.
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Bigstack in a satellite on the bubble. |
Wroooong.
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The first question should be about AA, not KK.
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I nearly folded AA in a sattelite that I almost was sure to cash because I had a middle stack vs. a lot of shorties and a huge stack |
This is closer to being a correct spot to do so depending on the exact situation. |
I had 5K chips, the huge stack had 10K chips, like 3 shorties had under a thousand
there were 7 of us, 6 received the seat
I actually thought 3 received a seat, so I called with AA
if I knew that we were waiting for ONE person to bust I wouldn't bother
I got confused because it was a 20 person sattelite so 6 cashed and I was playing some different ones at the time
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Robb
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Blinds/antes?
How'd it work out?
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Yep.
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To quote Herm Edwards.
Hellooooo you Plaaaay to WIN the game!
AA is far too valuable to just let it sit.. No matter what situation you're in at a tournament.
We did the math, must have been about a year ago, and AA is the only hand that even if all 10 people at the table are all in, that AA is the mathematical favorite to win the hand 100% of the time. That's just too good to pass up
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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Blinds/antes?
How'd it work out?
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I beat the guy's JJ and we pretty much switched stacks, I became the 10K stack and he became the 5K stack
and then I cashed in the next like orbit since the blinds were xbox hueg
I was confused because I thought we'd be playing down to 3 and I would actually fold if I knew that
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To quote Herm Edwards.
Hellooooo you Plaaaay to WIN the game!
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I specifically said satellite. If you're deep enough and close enough to the bubble, YOU HAVE ALREADY WON.
Every decition you make from there on that is not "fold" or "stall.............. fold" is -EV
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To quote Herm Edwards.
Hellooooo you Plaaaay to WIN the game!
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I specifically said satellite. If you're deep enough and close enough to the bubble, YOU HAVE ALREADY WON.
Every decition you make from there on that is not "fold" or "stall.............. fold" is -EV |
advanced play: steal blinds from the shortest stacks on the table as long as no one with a decent stack can call you
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To quote Herm Edwards.
Hellooooo you Plaaaay to WIN the game!
AA is far too valuable to just let it sit.. No matter what situation you're in at a tournament.
We did the math, must have been about a year ago, and AA is the only hand that even if all 10 people at the table are all in, that AA is the mathematical favorite to win the hand 100% of the time. That's just too good to pass up
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Any link? I would like to read the theory behind that. I'm sure it is the favourite 100% of the time, but doesn't your chances to win drop fairly significantly the more people are involved in the hand?
For example, if you are up against 9 other hands, all suited connectors or other pocket pairs would your chances to win not be severely diminished?
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To quote Herm Edwards.
Hellooooo you Plaaaay to WIN the game!
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I specifically said satellite. If you're deep enough and close enough to the bubble, YOU HAVE ALREADY WON.
Every decition you make from there on that is not "fold" or "stall.............. fold" is -EV |
or min raise because everyone is in that same mind set. Adjust to the table, baby. Just because you have KK doesn't mean you have to stack off with KK
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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oskar
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No, there's a point where your-stack in relation to the blinds you'll have to pay/hr and the level of the average stack means that you have literally already won. There is no way you'll blind yourself to death before the tournament is over. Every chip you voluntarily put into the pot is risking you a sure finish ITM. This only makes sense in SATELLITES (for the third time now) where every place ITM is rewarded the same amount of cash / ticket. - You know... a sattelite so to speak.
Did i mention I was talking about Satellites?
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So this rather uncommon situation occurs in what kind of tournament? 
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No, there's a point where your-stack in relation to the blinds you'll have to pay/hr and the level of the average stack means that you have literally already won.
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thumbs up, that's awesome. I never said I was going to risk a lot of chips with KK. Just that I was going to steal the blinds. And if a shorty pushes, Ill snap him off and bust the bubble.
I understand the idea of "DONT RISK YOUVE ALREADY WON" but I've got this set of testicles that says I'm not folding KK preflop and this big old brain which will verify that this decision will not cost me my tourny.
If I raise and you are the other big stack with AA, you're going to fold. Because you dont want to risk your tourny life.
If I raise and you're a shorty giving me 2 or 3 to 1 with KK to bust the bubble for a fifth of my stack, fist pump.
If I minraise and 2 bigstacks shove over, I'll snap fold KK. But those blinds are valueable so that I can continue to run over the table
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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this is correct, I WILL blind steal from shorties trying to burst the bubble since I can afford to double a few shorties in my position and still cash
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But you haz a King and another King. ARRRRR IN!!!
* Probably best to insert the answers given into the OP and delete all irrelevant comments.
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But you haz a King and another King. ARRRRR IN!!!
* Probably best to insert the answers given into the OP and delete all irrelevant comments.
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Thread started good, then massive derail. Thread fails.
Good idea though.
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Just playing to improve.
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Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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thread officially derailed 
someone start a new one and keep it on topic!!
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Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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