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08-08-2005, 11:42 AM
Post subject: Common Beginner pitfalls to avoid
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After a few months of playing online poker for real money I thought it would be appropriate to summerize a few of the common mistakes that I learnt through losing my money, and I saw my friends make and I commonly see on this site.
Nothing I say here is any new and amazing stuff, and it is stuff that you will see in most poker books and in this site, but I still think it is valueble for new beginners to avoid those pitfalls.
My experience is mainly in Sng's and is aimed for Sng players.
OK, enough introductions:
1. AJ, AT, KJ - Most beginners tend to overvalue those hands. In late stages in Sngs they are gold but in early stages (7-9 players) they are very dangerous hands. It is exactly the kind of hands that you either win small pots or lose big ones. In early stages I fold those hands to any agression preflop, limp from MP, maybe raise from LP, depending on the table structure.
2. Suited connectors are for flushes or str8s - I believe that limping with suited connectors is a profitable move in Sngs - assuming you remember why you play them!
You want to make a str8 or a flush, not Top pair. Way too often you will limp with T9 to have a flop of T,7,2 rainbow - your hand is not good. You may be able to win the pot, but you have a very mediocare hand, be willing to drop it.
3. KK - This is a great hand ofcourse, but by no means it is a guarenteed winner. When an A comes on the Flop you have to be very careful. If you raised nicely preflop and you had 1 or 2 callers there is a very good chance they are holding the A. If it is checked to you and you are last or one before last to bet throw in a continuation bet, but be willing to fold to a reraise.
4. JJ, TT - my least favorite hands of all time - Early in the tournament I am not willing to invest too much money in them, maybe 10% of my stack. From EP I will play them as I would low pair (see the flop cheap, if you didnt hit a set or a low flop when you have overpair fold to agression).
5. Once you put chips in the pot they are not yours anyomre - Dont feel compelled to chase the hand just because you invested money in the pot. Sngs are not about any one specific hand - its about making it to the money.
6. Slowplay monsters only at early stages - And by monster I mean a boat, a nut flush or a set on a very uncoordinated board. Dont slowplay two pairs in the early stages, you will get burned more often then you can believe. If you have JThearts and the flop comes 2 7 9 hearts dont let the Q, K, A hearts get a card for cheap. Make them pay to chase.
7. People can get a few good hands in a row - It is not uncommon to get 3,4 or even 5 good starting hands in a row. Just because someone raised 3 consecutive times preflop does not mean that he is a bluffing maniac, he could be, but he is not neccessarily is. When he raise 7 out of the first 10 hands you can assume he is a maniac.
8. Dont minbet at early stages- It accomplishes nothing - You will not scare anybody with a minbet when the minbet is 1/50 of their stack. If you think you should bet do it agressively.
9. pot odds are less important then stack size - In ring games pot odds is king. In Sng your stack size matters much more. It is way too easy too blead half your stack on chasing hands that you had pot odds to call ,and then have a short stack and having the entire table picking on you trying to knock you out.
10. He is bluffing syndrom - Everybody I know had this syndrom at one point or another - You are sure everybody is bluffing all the time - so you reraise somebody with your TPLK only to discover - surprise,surprise they have you outkicked. You need good reads to find out that people are bluffing.
11. Good players change pace - the ABC of Sng is to play tight in the beginning and agressively towards the end - dont be surprised when people do it. Just because somebody playing only 2 hands in the first three orbits does not mean that they will be tight forever.
12. Dont limp when you are short stacked - When you are the short stacked (5BB or less) you can't limp into hands - pick your spot and try to double up.
13. Think about the entire hand - When you bet/raise/call think about the entire hand - remember what you opponent did at every stage and try to anticipate what he will do next. A poker hand is not a series of indpendant decisions, its a series of connected decisions each affecting the other.
14. Notice the tight players too - It is way to easy to overlook the tight players at the table and focus on the loose/agressive ones. Pay attention to those who fold 80% of the hands, they probably know what they are doing
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A10Chief
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That was awesome. To the point and easy to understand. I'm printing it. Thanks.
Edit: placed 2nd in two SnG's this morning sticking to this.
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galwaylad7
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Great Post! Lots of great stuff in there, a few of which I've come learn along the way as well.
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10. He is bluffing syndrom - Everybody I know had this syndrom at one point or another - You are sure everybody is bluffing all the time - so you reraise somebody with your TPLK only to discover - surprise,surprise they have you outkicked. You need good reads to find out that people are bluffing.
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I have a question about the inverse of "He is bluffing syndrome." I know that there's always about a 10% chance or so that after any given bet, a player could be bluffing, but I seem to have the problem that I tend to give a LOT of credit to raises and re-raises and I feel that no-one is bluffing. Any advice on how to get over this, despite working on timely reads and picking up on betting patterns?
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vqc
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great post,
do you mind making a repost in the SNG forum?
I mean comon, the SNG forum should be your home!
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TLR
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I have a question about the inverse of "He is bluffing syndrome." I know that there's always about a 10% chance or so that after any given bet, a player could be bluffing, but I seem to have the problem that I tend to give a LOT of credit to raises and re-raises and I feel that no-one is bluffing. Any advice on how to get over this, despite working on timely reads and picking up on betting patterns?
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Other then reads I dont know of any other ways to detect bluffing. However in Sngs you usually have enough time to get basic reads on the players in the early stages, and use them in later stages
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TLR
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do you mind making a repost in the SNG forum?
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No problem
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TLR
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Edit: placed 2nd in two SnG's this morning sticking to this.
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Great news, keep up the good work
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yes good post.
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