Poker Forum

Over 1,246,000 Posts!

REGISTER
Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password

Poker Forum

  > 

Beginners Circle

  > 

comments on a river bluff

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Extremophile
Old 09-18-2009, 10:39 PM     Post subject: comments on a river bluff #1 (permalink)  
Extremophile's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Stackton
Posts: 451
Extremophile
Villian is loose-passive. called 3-bet on the button with K6o. Comments?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($4.49)
Button ($1.44)
Hero (SB) ($2.80)
BB ($11.32)
UTG ($5.68)
MP ($1.31)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, J
2 folds, CO calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.22) 9, 3, 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.42) K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, CO calls $0.20

River: ($0.82) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.40 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $1.82 | Rake: $0.05

Results:
Hero didn't show A, J (nothing).
Outcome: Hero won $1.77
Reply With Quote

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
Carroters
Old 09-18-2009, 11:03 PM #2 (permalink)  
Carroters's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Da Amberlamps
Posts: 2,216
Carroters has a spectacular aura aboutCarroters has a spectacular aura about
 what the actual hell are you doing on the flop? B/f is probably fine since he's limp calling trash and will fold tons of spadeless unpaired hands. Failing that, just c/f ffs.

No street makes any sense here. Please explain your thought process at least.

 
Reply With Quote
Stacks
Old 09-18-2009, 11:12 PM #3 (permalink)  
Stacks's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Im opedipus bitch, the original balla.
Posts: 2,605
Stacks will become famous soon enoughStacks will become famous soon enough
 Pre-flop is played well.
Reply With Quote
LawDude
Old 09-18-2009, 11:18 PM #4 (permalink)  
Full House

Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 940
LawDude
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carroters
what the actual hell are you doing on the flop? B/f is probably fine since he's limp calling trash and will fold tons of spadeless unpaired hands. Failing that, just c/f ffs.

No street makes any sense here. Please explain your thought process at least.
You know, "no street makes any sense here" can be a great line to take if one plays at the level of Phil Ivey or Chris Furgeson. Precisely because one can induce an opponent with a made hand to fold on the river to ace high.

But since OP is playing 2NL, may I recommend that he play ABC poker instead?
Reply With Quote
Carroters
Old 09-18-2009, 11:31 PM #5 (permalink)  
Carroters's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Da Amberlamps
Posts: 2,216
Carroters has a spectacular aura aboutCarroters has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
Pre-flop is played well.
Yah didn't mean to mislead you OP, preflop is awesome.

Law Dude - It's not a case of playing ABC poker or not playing ABC poker, it's a case of not making horrible -EV plays.

 
Reply With Quote
Extremophile
Old 09-18-2009, 11:41 PM #6 (permalink)  
Extremophile's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Stackton
Posts: 451
Extremophile
I just wanted to take the pot down somehow. this guy was calling everything, I was missing flop and maybe a little bit on tilt. I know a bluff was the only to take it down.
Reply With Quote
Stacks
Old 09-18-2009, 11:44 PM #7 (permalink)  
Stacks's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Im opedipus bitch, the original balla.
Posts: 2,605
Stacks will become famous soon enoughStacks will become famous soon enough
 I wouldn't make it a habit to bluff individuals that don't frequently fold.

And regardless, if you are going to make a play what are you doing on the flop? If you want to make a play just bet/fold the flop, or even c/raise would be better than c/call. Then leading the turn for half pot against a villain who doesn't care to fold doesn't make much sense.
Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2009, 01:35 AM #8 (permalink)  
Guest

Posts: n/a
super terrible
watch him tank and call with the 8s or something
you're just lucky he had no spades
Reply With Quote
LawDude
Old 09-19-2009, 07:32 AM #9 (permalink)  
Full House

Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 940
LawDude
I'll say one thing about this. IF you get to the river AND you think Villain's line indicates that they do not have the flush, THEN you can try a river bluff, even at 2NL. But the real question here is what the heck are you doing in this hand on the river in the first place?
Reply With Quote
Extremophile
Old 09-19-2009, 09:27 AM #10 (permalink)  
Extremophile's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Stackton
Posts: 451
Extremophile
Quote:
Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
I wouldn't make it a habit to bluff individuals that don't frequently fold.
Yes, especially at the level I played.


I had been waiting for some real hands and when they came I missed the flops and this guy flatted c-bets. need more patience.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LawDude
But the real question here is what the heck are you doing in this hand on the river in the first place?.
1) Flop: I have two over cards and I might still have good odds (I exclude As,Js).

2)Turn: I wanted to pretend like I have AK, Kx and decided to lead.

3)River: My last and possibly the only chance to take the pot down is going all in.
Reply With Quote
Micro2Macro
Old 09-19-2009, 04:11 PM #11 (permalink)  
Micro2Macro's Avatar
Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: http://three-pair.com/
Posts: 4,463
Micro2Macro is a jewel in the roughMicro2Macro is a jewel in the roughMicro2Macro is a jewel in the rough
 Win money not pots.
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."

Check out my blog here!

"You are a degenerate Gaam-balur"

http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
 
Reply With Quote
surviva316
Old 09-19-2009, 04:40 PM #12 (permalink)  
surviva316's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Confusing people with my liberal biblicisms
Posts: 1,625
surviva316 will become famous soon enough
 could we like at least have the 2 of spades to c/float this flop?

also, why are you floating a friggin' "loose passive" player. for starters, a float is a bluff play and you shouldn't be making too many of those against people who call too much. second off, it relies on someone to be betting with a weak range, and this guy's passive, so why do we think that he's making a play at this pot very often.

just flop top pair, make money against said opponent. yadda yadda yadda i couldn't catch a flop this session yadda yadda yadda. that's no excuse to make -EV plays, and it certainly doesn't make rebluffing a friggin calling station any more EV. just swallow your pride and wait to get a hand with which you can value pwn the villain
Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
I just wanted to share singing vaginas.
 
Reply With Quote
Ordalium
Old 09-19-2009, 04:43 PM #13 (permalink)  
Ordalium's Avatar
One Pair

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: France
Posts: 16
Ordalium
Quote:
Originally Posted by Extremophile
... this guy was calling everything, ...
Not a good idea to bluff a calling station. You better make him pay when you have a hand.

About this hand, it's a fold flop for me, cause you miss it and can't really improve. You where really lucky here.
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
KoRnholio Old 05-26-2012, 03:08 PM    Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ...

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:41 PM.

Contact Us - Archive - Top

FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com 		Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.