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DubRod
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02-22-2007, 11:29 PM
Post subject: Comfort levels at different stakes??
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Straight
Join Date: Nov 2005
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I find it strange but it seems i just feel so much more comfortable at 100NL then 50NL. I think maybe it's because general play is better and people can fold and play generally tighter wich is something i take avantage of.
Am I the only one in this situation?
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meeloche
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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I find the same thing, i'd love to play higher stakes problem is my bankroll won't allow it at this time. When i do play against better player i appreaciated not getting called down with crap and getting rivered. Its also a benifit that if they think they're beat a better player will fold not call you down to find out for sure.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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funny. i am the opposite. i am more comfortable the lower i go. sure, i get used to the stakes at which i play, and refuse to play outside my br. however, i am more in poker as a "hobby," not as a business. so, i play where i kill the game, simply because i am very competitive come to find out.
so, where my win rate is highest is where you will find me. right now...grinding on the 10 NLs, but have been up to the 100 NLs and 2/4 limits. so, wherever i feel the fish are most plentiful, in a nutshell.
as for the "rivered" stuff. that never goes away completely, and i love people calling me down "just to see." they are the source of all my LONG-TERM winning, and yours, too.
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meeloche
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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and i love people calling me down "just to see." they are the source of all my LONG-TERM winning, and yours, too.
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True, kinda forgot about that part which i do like as long as they dont river me in the process.
I find though if i move down stakes sometimes i dont play as well and aren't as focused. I think my subconcious tells me since im playing worse players i dont have to work as hard. Something to work on for sure. I'm super competitive as well and if i move up in stakes i badly want to dominate just as much as I did on the lower stakes so i try harder and really evaluate my play which in turn makes me a better player.
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biondino
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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I play £50NL and $100NL which are virtually identical in actual cash terms but I VASTLY prefer £50. I'm sure that's mainly because I'm used to it, but also, they are that little bit less aggressive. *I* want to be the aggressive one.
If I play $25 these days I find it hard to play optimally because it's outside my comfort zone for the opposite reason.
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XTR1000
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4-of-a-Kind
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i switched from fr to 6max and to get used to sh play i moved back down from 50 to 25nl.
i love it, when you dont have to worry about getting action on your premiums. let the donkeys hit their flush against the odds, let them suck out on your top set with a gutshot, let them donk you down 5 buy-ins...i´ll rather get sucked out once in a while than playing ppl who somwhat know what they are doing.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Originally Posted by meeloche
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and i love people calling me down "just to see." they are the source of all my LONG-TERM winning, and yours, too.
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True, kinda forgot about that part which i do like as long as they dont river me in the process.
I find though if i move down stakes sometimes i dont play as well and aren't as focused. I think my subconcious tells me since im playing worse players i dont have to work as hard. Something to work on for sure. I'm super competitive as well and if i move up in stakes i badly want to dominate just as much as I did on the lower stakes so i try harder and really evaluate my play which in turn makes me a better player.
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although, i can see your thought process, mine, again, is opposite. when i play down, i play a bit more reckless (w/in reason) and much more aggressive. when i play up, i find i play a bit timid/scared. i dont want to "lose" any money in big chunks...as a result, i rock it up and sit on cards...as a further result, i lose much needed action.
down lower, i hide behind every limper i can...and with the craziest of combinations (gappers, weak sc's, sometimes AKs). i feel it really mixes up my game (not that anyone pays attention), but it also helps me stay on top of my game, and realize when there is no way my villain can "read" my hand...if he's trying to. i c/r my draws on occasion, or check behind on the flop when my set hits the rainbow, maybe the turn. all sorts of goofy crap that goes directly against abc poker (although, i AM abc 90% of the time). for example, if the AK gets limped in a 3 way pot, and the K hits, you know you are good 90+% of the time, and can play it a bit sneaky as long as no draw hits/completes. when at higher stakes, you have to raise that hand, tell everyone you have some strength, and let the 97s float on you with a flop of 7 9 A rainbow, or cbet it when it misses and get floated just the same. it sucks! down low, i will call standard raises w/ silly stuff for a flop, but up high, i wont. i suspect it's the "playing scared" part i just mentioned.
boy, i may have discovered something in my game up a bit higher...thanks for the topic!
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by Chopper
when i play down, i play a bit more reckless (w/in reason) and much more aggressive. when i play up, i find i play a bit timid/scared. i dont want to "lose" any money in big chunks...as a result, i rock it up and sit on cards...as a further result, i lose much needed action.
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Play at the highest stakes at which you are comfortable playing for stacks (and bankrolled for). Scared money = poor play.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
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now this will sound a bit contradictory, but i dont fear playing for stacks...ever. i dont go in w/o confidence i have the best hand. usually, better than 75% confidence. sure, i am wrong, but not too often.
i understand that if i have AA, i may not like it multi-way, but i have very little choice but to stick in 100, 200, whatever my stack is. does it lose? yup, about 15% of the time...lol.
consequently, i rarely stick it in w/ a draw, and rarely w/o a monster when i dont have a read (monster can be TPTK depending on the board).
bottome line...i agree with you warpe about the stacks and br. its the TPGK getting raised, or calling the 4X raise multi-way w/ AXs late or 67s mid pos when i am looking for that monster that i dont do often enough (playing scared)...and should when playing up at the higher end of my limits.
stacking off is not the big deal to me. its the stuff in between like the 2-barrell cbet or c/r on a flush board w/ no redraw that i cant pull the trigger on. you know, where the skill is.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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