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Old 06-28-2009, 11:27 PM     Post subject: collusion or psychic? #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #29885494913: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2009/06/29 0:09:32 EET [2009/06/28 17:09:32 ET]
Table 'Pamina V' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: parcharge ($1.83 in chips)
Seat 3: clifflonglll ($2.33 in chips)
Seat 4: Guisseppe ($1.17 in chips)
Seat 6: NotElNinho ($1 in chips)
Seat 7: hugopeich ($0.86 in chips)
Seat 8: ollie.99.91 ($1.91 in chips)
Seat 9: sara34 ($2 in chips)
ollie.99.91: posts small blind $0.01
sara34: posts big blind $0.02
Tomatino: sits out
OLIVERTE: sits out
NotElNinho: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ollie.99.91 [6c 7d]
parcharge: folds
clifflonglll: folds
Guisseppe: folds
NotElNinho: checks
hugopeich: raises $0.06 to $0.08
ollie.99.91: folds
sara34: calls $0.06
NotElNinho: folds
*** FLOP *** [4c 5c 3c]
sara34: bets $0.08
sara34 said, "88"
hugopeich: raises $0.70 to $0.78 and is all-in
sara34: calls $0.70
*** TURN *** [4c 5c 3c] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [4c 5c 3c 4d] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sara34: shows [Jc Ac] (a flush, Ace high)
hugopeich: shows [8h 8c] (a full house, Eights full of Fours)
hugopeich collected $1.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.75 | Rake $0.05
Board [4c 5c 3c 4d 8s]
Seat 1: parcharge folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: clifflonglll folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Guisseppe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: NotElNinho folded before Flop
Seat 7: hugopeich (button) showed [8h 8c] and won ($1.70) with a full house, Eights full of Fours
Seat 8: ollie.99.91 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: sara34 (big blind) showed [Jc Ac] and lost with a flush, Ace high
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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Dealer: juan0984 folds
 
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:36 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:18 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:01 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:03 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Its 2nl and the flopped nutflush got all in against a flopped overpair + FD and there was a suckout. Std.
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:10 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:40 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:49 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 Do you guys not know how the fucking read? Do you not see the bolded 'sara34 said, "88"' in the hand history before the hands were turned over? Coming from the guy that had the flush draw?

It could be luck, or whatever. But kinda seems like maybe he was typing it somewhere else and accidentally the enter button on the table.

Either way, even if they are colluding, they just felted each other with noone else in he pot, so whatever.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:22 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:57 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Its 2nl and the flopped nutflush got all in against a flopped overpair + FD and there was a suckout. Std.
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I wasn't talking about the hand..i was talking about sara identifying the other guy as having 88 on the flop. and then he goes allin after she says that
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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Old 06-29-2009, 12:48 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 not sure how someone saying what their own hand is makes them psychic unless they're blind or were deciding to play with their eyes shut.

as far as collusion goes, no, unless they are retarded and don't know how to collude. i see people making a bet and if the villain things for long enough then they'll pull a tough guy move and say what their hand is (and they're almost never lying because they think that they've mindfucked you when really you just have to know that they're never lying in order to mindfuck you). a tv example of this is in the wsop where the ucf fighter lindell told the opponent that he had two pair (which he did because he doesn't know how to play poker at all and had like 73o or some crap).

it's just illegal table talk
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:57 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 Would anyone like to collude on 2NL with me and make some serious moniez?

 
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:59 PM #13 (permalink)  
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not sure how someone saying what their own hand is makes them psychic unless they're blind or were deciding to play with their eyes shut.

as far as collusion goes, no, unless they are retarded and don't know how to collude. i see people making a bet and if the villain things for long enough then they'll pull a tough guy move and say what their hand is (and they're almost never lying because they think that they've mindfucked you when really you just have to know that they're never lying in order to mindfuck you). a tv example of this is in the wsop where the ucf fighter lindell told the opponent that he had two pair (which he did because he doesn't know how to play poker at all and had like 73o or some crap).

it's just illegal table talk

...jeez man. it's not her own hand. read the bolded parts?
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

JR: lets do it JUAN
JR: mono e mono
JR: man to man
JR: HU4ROLLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:07 PM #14 (permalink)  
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 oh...stacks' reply confused me and led me toward thinking they were revealing their own hand. the fact that it wasn't the person's hand who said it was their hand makes me even more certain that it's not collusion, though (all the previous points still apply plus the point that why the f would a couple of people who are doing something that's risking their entire bankroll because it's illegal show off the fact that they know each other's hands.

as for whether or not sara's psychic...
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:07 PM #15 (permalink)  
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 Bunch of Jennifer Tilly's in this thread.

SARA34 (!!!!!) SAYS 88
HugoPeich (!!!!!) HAS 88.

GAWDDDDDD


I don't know if it's collusion or just some wierd coincidence, but with no-one else in the pot it doesn't matter too much nish.

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Old 06-29-2009, 01:22 PM #16 (permalink)  
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I did misread, thought the guy with 88 said 88.

Anyway, given sara bet 0.08 it could easy be mistyped. Usually the chat would come first but maybe she tabbed out, bet and then pressed enter back in the chat box somehow.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:30 PM #17 (permalink)  
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 collusion to take 2 bucks off someone....unlikely

cheating so she sees ppl's cards and can fail at 2nl...unlikely

random luck/coincidence with typing...ya ding ding ding.

like really, this is kind of ldo aint it?
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:22 AM #18 (permalink)  
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Do you guys not know how the fucking read? Do you not see the bolded 'sara34 said, "88"' in the hand history before the hands were turned over? Coming from the guy that had the flush draw?

It could be luck, or whatever. But kinda seems like maybe he was typing it somewhere else and accidentally the enter button on the table.

Either way, even if they are colluding, they just felted each other with noone else in he pot, so whatever.
Can you say "felted" in an online game where there's no felt?
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Old 06-30-2009, 04:01 AM #19 (permalink)  
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If you are looking for something .....
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Not Collusion IMO.
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Old 06-30-2009, 07:38 PM #20 (permalink)  
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Not sure what the motivation to collude would be here. Just coincidence imo.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:06 PM #21 (permalink)  
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:06 PM #22 (permalink)  
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No-one addressed the possibility sara is psychic..seems like an important read to have on an opponent to me
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

JR: lets do it JUAN
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:35 AM #23 (permalink)  
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No-one addressed the possibility sara is psychic..seems like an important read to have on an opponent to me


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That explains everything .....

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Old 07-01-2009, 09:15 AM #24 (permalink)  
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No-one addressed the possibility sara is psychic..seems like an important read to have on an opponent to me
if I see sara winning over 9,000,000 against durrrrr in HU later this year, then I'll give credence to this theory
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