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piper
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03-17-2005, 12:56 PM
Post subject: Cold Calling
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According to the poker dictionary a cold call is calling a raise without having previously bet.
Is this any different than the smooth call?
Is a cold call a type of slow play? If you have a great hand and only call a bet or raise would this likely disguise the strength of your hand.
Or could you use a cold call on a drawing hand if the pot odds are good.
Basically I'm wondering how a cold call works and where it might be useful.
Thanks guys.
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hagakure
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If the pot odds are good then it's a good idea, if they arent, than it isnt. If you are on a flush draw after the flop the odds are decent that you will make your flush, in that case I would do it.
However, if you dont even have a pair after the flop I would consider it a true "cold call" to continue to call hoping that you get something on the turn or river.
Personally I don't consider it a type of slow play. In my opinion, slow play means that you have a hand and you are changing gears to get someone to think you dont...not really a bluff, but more of a short term variance.
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aokrongly
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I've always thought of cold calling as calling with very little (A high for instance or low board pair) because you think your opponent has less. It's not a slow play. think of it as calling with "cold" cards that have potential. I don't know what the definition is. But when I think of calling someone "cold" I think of calling a bet that you have little reason to call because the bettor is saying "I have a hand" and you're cold calling him saying "I know you don't have a hand, and even though I don't have Much of a hand, I think it's better."
Smooth calling is when you probably have the best hand with an active bettor in front of you. Instead of revealing the strength of your hand with a raise, you call. Smooth calling is a slowplay move. You can smooth call whether you opened the pot or not preflop. You have AK, and flop is AAx. Bet in front, you call. that's a Smooth Call.
I have not read any poker dictionaries, but that's how I interpret those terms.
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Les_Worm
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Cold calling is calling more then one bet at once. If there is a bet and a raise before you and then you call, you just called two bets cold. If you are in early position and you call, it gets raised behind you and you call the other bet, that is not a cold call.
Smooth calling is when someone bets and you call with a raising hand. Many times when I flop a monster and get bet into, I smooth call with the intent of raising on the turn.
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piper
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There's a link here on the beginner's circle to a gambling dictionary. It's in one of the stickeys.
So smooth call = calling with a raising hand. Slow play.
Cold call could be calling a bluff with a weak hand that you think will beat the bluffing hand.
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Les_Worm
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Originally Posted by piper
Cold call could be calling a bluff with a weak hand that you think will beat the bluffing hand.
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I already told you what cold calling was.
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RiverMonkey
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Originally Posted by Les_worm
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Originally Posted by piper
Cold call could be calling a bluff with a weak hand that you think will beat the bluffing hand.
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I already told you what cold calling was. |
Do u ever get the feeling that sometimes people don't actually read the thread?
Maybe I'm in an impatient mood (if so, I apologize), but come on guys, Les_worm took the time and made the effort to give you a very good definition for both, and you're still speculating.
Not only that, do a search for 'cold call' in these forums before posing the original question and you would have had your answer.
Wow, I sound like a grumpy old man .... I need some coffee.  
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piper
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Sorry Les Worm. Your explanation was clear on what a cold call is.
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thestrokes
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Originally Posted by RiverMonkey
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Originally Posted by Les_worm
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Originally Posted by piper
Cold call could be calling a bluff with a weak hand that you think will beat the bluffing hand.
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I already told you what cold calling was. |
Do u ever get the feeling that sometimes people don't actually read the thread?
Maybe I'm in an impatient mood (if so, I apologize), but come on guys, Les_worm took the time and made the effort to give you a very good definition for both, and you're still speculating.
Not only that, do a search for 'cold call' in these forums before posing the original question and you would have had your answer.
Wow, I sound like a grumpy old man .... I need some coffee. |
Give him a break, he still wasn't sure what the answer to his question was so he asked a follow up question to be sure he had the right idea.
If everytime someone askes a question and you guys yell at him, we wont have any more discussion on this forum at all.
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Les_Worm
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Originally Posted by thestrokes
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Originally Posted by RiverMonkey
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Originally Posted by Les_worm
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Originally Posted by piper
Cold call could be calling a bluff with a weak hand that you think will beat the bluffing hand.
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I already told you what cold calling was. |
Do u ever get the feeling that sometimes people don't actually read the thread?
Maybe I'm in an impatient mood (if so, I apologize), but come on guys, Les_worm took the time and made the effort to give you a very good definition for both, and you're still speculating.
Not only that, do a search for 'cold call' in these forums before posing the original question and you would have had your answer.
Wow, I sound like a grumpy old man .... I need some coffee. |
Give him a break, he still wasn't sure what the answer to his question was so he asked a follow up question to be sure he had the right idea.
If everytime someone askes a question and you guys yell at him, we wont have any more discussion on this forum at all. |
I didn't yell at anyone, was this directed at me? You said 'you guys' and I don't know if that means me.
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