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Chicago_Kid
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05-16-2006, 06:23 AM
Post subject: Check up at 100k: w/r question
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Well, I've been playing part-time (mostly weekends) since January, and I recently hit 100k hands, playing mainly Party, Crypto and Pacific and some others at 50NL and 100NL.
I have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed with my w/r at this time, sitting just over 5 bb/100. Back in January, I was scorching at over 9 bb/100 and I thought I would be able to sustain that over the year.
Well, I can understand that when everyone gets done with breaks and back into the swing of studies and work, many fish disappear. But, last month was pretty weak at about 4.2 bb/100, and I'm thinking I should be b/t 7-10 bb/100. A couple things I've noticed by looking at my stats and play during this time:
- One thing I've noticed is that I usually multi-table between 3-6 ring games, at about 22/9/1.34 in PT, but I have a peculiar feeling that playing more that 3 hurts my w/r at all times other than Saturday afternoon "drunk time". However, there are times where I can really clean up by doing so, so I seem to gradually add a couple more tables during these periods until I end up back at 5-6.
- Another learning is that I'm about 2-3 laydowns per session away from increasing my w/r by 30-50% if I could only f-ing muck those really tough 2nd/3rd best hands---you know the ones you are 80-85% sure you are beat, but you find some reason to call.
- Another weakness is pushing AK/AQ too hard OOP when I whiff, particularly when I haven't seen a hand in a while.
- Alternatively, in comparing my Dec/Jan months to the more recent mths, I've noticed by VPIP went from 18 to 23 to 26. Is that 5% enough to cut my w/r in half???
Anyway, I wanted to get any thoughts on what I've heard about people boasting 10+ bb/100 at 100NL, and I wanted to know how common this is...
Thanks,
CK
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Cocco_Bill
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05-16-2006, 11:50 AM
Post subject: Re: Check up at 100k: w/r question
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Sweden
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Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
Anyway, I wanted to get any thoughts on what I've heard about people boasting 10+ bb/100 at 100NL, and I wanted to know how common this is...
Thanks,
CK
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Its not common at all over a significant sample size. Multitabling at 5ptBB/100 for 100k hands is quite good IMO.
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biondino
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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You are consistently beating $100NL, it's not something you should fret about.
I wonder if this is what's happening: As you get more comfortable with your game and your surroundings, you are subconsciously (or consciously?) exploring new hands, new moves, new ideas, which is allowing you to open up and play more hands in more positions. You are probably playing a few hands which are marginally -EV but it's okay because it is helping you grow as a player, find your limits etc. As a result, you're losing a few BB/100, but because you're not making any big or terrible errors, you don't really notice where the returns are dropping.
Tbh it all sounds quite encoraging - you're continuing with your poker education through trial, error and experience, which is really the only way it can satisfactorily be done. Take an evening off poker to study Poker Tracker - have a look at the hands you're playing now; check your position stats (a bad habit of mine is playing SCs too early, for example - this sounds like something you might be doing, hence you'reincreased VP), and look at some sample hands, check if you're happy with how you played them and what you'd next time in the same circumstances.
It's great that the best of the best have double-figure BB/100 figures, but the vast majority of us don't. You're a consitent winner and obviously a thoughtful player who is still keen to learn. Don't introduce unnecessary panic and you'll be fine.
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jackvance
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05-16-2006, 02:25 PM
Post subject: Re: Check up at 100k: w/r question
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
- Another learning is that I'm about 2-3 laydowns per session away from increasing my w/r by 30-50% if I could only f-ing muck those really tough 2nd/3rd best hands---you know the ones you are 80-85% sure you are beat, but you find some reason to call.
- Another weakness is pushing AK/AQ too hard OOP when I whiff, particularly when I haven't seen a hand in a while.
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These two kill your profits. It looks like you've gone a bit "lazy" so to speak because you've been getting consistent results. I think these are signs of your game slipping a bit.
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