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Old 11-05-2004, 08:49 PM     Post subject: Celebrate bad calls #1 (permalink)  
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Been reading my ToP and I know you're supposed to root for the opp to make a bad call. And when they do, you're supposed to be all happy.

I still can't do it though; I just came from a table full of whackoffs, where I played smart for an hour, winning a decent amount of money, and then lost it to a bad call that hit. Of course I stopped playing.

For the curious: I flopped a flush playing 23 suited, and overbet the pot. The turn was another spade, giving any spade the flush as well. Oh, and giving me four to the straight flush, so I was semi-forced to call and see if the river would save me. It didn't.
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Old 11-05-2004, 10:07 PM     Post subject: Re: Celebrate bad calls #2 (permalink)  
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LeFou -

I've seen you play. And all one has to do is look at the Gauntlet leaderboard to see that you know how to play well. However, I found a few funny things with your post.

You are playing 32s and you are wondering about your opponent making the bad call? And what size was the pot and bet that you were pot committed to a 1 out-er or a 2 outer?

But on a different note - That's one of the major incentives to playing limit holdem for me. It seemed in NL I would grind out a decent profit by winning hand after hand after hand. Then lose it all with 1 dumb play, or 1 lucky river. In limit, I seem to restrict my wins slightly, but it seems to restrict my loses greatly.
I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
 
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Old 11-06-2004, 02:08 AM     Post subject: Re: Celebrate bad calls #3 (permalink)  
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You are playing 32s and you are wondering about your opponent making the bad call? And what size was the pot and bet that you were pot committed to a 1 out-er or a 2 outer?
Yes, there were five or so people in on a cheap flop so 23s plays. My big bet on the flop narrowed it down to just me and one other -- we were more or less tied for chip lead at about $30 -- at a .25/.50 table

So it wasn't "pot commitment" that made me call on the turn (when I had 4 to the SF), it was the implied odds. For $5 or so I was set to take his whole stack. (Pot was $20 or so at this time). Plus there was a (tiny) doubt in my mind that he held a spade anyway, since he hadn't raised me.

On the whole there's not much interesting about the hand; I was just whining.
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Old 11-06-2004, 02:13 PM     Post subject: Re: Celebrate bad calls #4 (permalink)  
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That's one of the major incentives to playing limit holdem for me. It seemed in NL I would grind out a decent profit by winning hand after hand after hand. Then lose it all with 1 dumb play, or 1 lucky river. In limit, I seem to restrict my wins slightly, but it seems to restrict my loses greatly.
Very tempting... my biggest successful run was a few months ago, when I had just started playing poker and Limit HE was all I ever played.

I surmise:
- that there's a bit more fishplay in limit, because so many beginners start there, e.g. me.
- the fishplay there is more profitable/less annoying than in NL because your bad beats do not rattle you as much, and you spend more time playing decently.

But that:

- consistent winning there is more scientific, more ABC, than the way I usually play. This style needs to be in a player's arsenal, of course, but I have a lot of studying to do before I feel Great about LHE.
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Old 11-06-2004, 02:22 PM     Post subject: Re: Celebrate bad calls #5 (permalink)  
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- consistent winning there is more scientific, more ABC, than the way I usually play. This style needs to be in a player's arsenal, of course, but I have a lot of studying to do before I feel Great about LHE.
I used to think that I played too "fun" to consider playing limit. However, I'm one of the least mathmatical people here and I'm OK in the limit rooms.
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Old 11-20-2004, 05:05 PM #6 (permalink)  
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bad calls = implied odds? correct?

you can't predict what they have, but if they catch whatever they're going for, u are in for a big loss.

ex. playing 63o
FLOP: 36K rainbow

and u hold AK
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