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Hoopy
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06-11-2010, 11:17 AM
Post subject: Cbetting spots
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Riverballs
Posts: 777
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All of these hands were played against unknowns either because I'd just started or joined a table.
weaktight | Hand Poll | AKo - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
Easy 3 bet pre flop. I think his continuing range is wider IP {22-JJ,AQ,AJ,KQ,AT,JTs-87s} though that range maybe far too optimistic. I don't want to just start blasting away at the pot on that flop since I think I'm going to get floated a lot so maybe 2 barreling is good? So what's your plan for the flop + turn, bet sizing?
weaktight | Hand Poll | QKo - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
Choose not to cbet that flop because it's semi wet compared to his range + I have a GS and BDFD. Once he re-raises it seemed like a fold to me though I guess he can have something like KcJc.
weaktight | Hand | K8o - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
Not exactly a cbetting spot, I thought about leading the flop but didn't in the end, opinions? River was interesting as I'm getting 3-1 and he could be bluff raising missed FD's and Jx/Qx enough to make this a call.
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EasyPoker
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 753
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This is what I probably would have done:
1) Cbet once, you have 8 outs plus a backdoor nut flush possibility and he is deep stacked...if he calls and it doesn't help you I'd probably leave it there. This is where reads/stats would help you wrt him I guess.
2) CBet that flop. Worrying about his range is just over-analysing it in that spot imo (someone feel free to contest that). I would have called his river bet, rather than raised him. The board is way too dangerous for that.
3) Cbet and if he calls, probably bet turn or check - then river check. As played, I would have overbet the turn K.
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: IRC Chat Room
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Hand 1: Probably okay either way.
Hand 2: Easy c-bet, a lot of good turn cards to barrel if need be.
Hand 3: Looks fine to me as played.
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Istanbul
Posts: 95
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H1: I like 1.40 here.
H2: 0.60 on the flop and if got called 1.50 on the turn (if checked to) I guess.
H3: I liked this as played but this is not a cbet spot.
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Zel
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 60
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1. I'd cbet the flop once.
2. I'd check flop and overbet turn. If there's any shoving, I'm committing. Depends on read, really. May fold to super tight player. Will call most of the other times. If villain floats, I may check the river.
3. I like as played.
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Imthenewfish
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: sites im allowed to play on
Posts: 945
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1. I don't like a cbet here because we can't really get to showdown if he calls this street and we don't improve on the turn. I'd search for his name and if it shows that he's on several tables, then I can think he's a reg and im fine with cbetting here, but I think a lot of unkowns will float with a bit of their range on this flop. I don't really want to barrel here and we're not sure he's going to fold a small PP here.
2. ez flop semi-bluff about 0.5 or 0.6
3. Played fine. I'm wondering if the turn bet could have been almost pot so that your river bet could be bigger.
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kmind
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Not Giving In
Posts: 4,240
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1. C/f because his range is capped to only goodish hands.
2. Cbet but only to 2 barrel a lot. Just call his turn bet don't raise!
3. Good as played call the river raise.
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