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aislephive

05-31-2006, 05:55 PM Post subject: Cash Games > SNGs/MTTs

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Yep.

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05-31-2006, 06:30 PM

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I prefer the latter but without the former I got no $$ to invest.

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05-31-2006, 06:31 PM

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05-31-2006, 06:35 PM

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I will give you my definitive answer when the year is over.

An MTT win is such a HUGE boost to the roll - but the long stretches of no wins can be a huge drain as well.

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05-31-2006, 06:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chardrian

I will give you my definitive answer when the year is over.

An MTT win is such a HUGE boost to the roll - but the long stretches of no wins can be a huge drain as well.

Yeah.. I didn't include MTT in my post because I don't have a big enough sample (or bankroll) to really get a clear picture. But I do have about the same large sample size of SnG and Ring and it is clear to me that Ring is soooo much more profitable for the time I spent doing both.

I had a few MTT FTs and a couple times it more than doubled my bankroll... so those can be pretty darn hefty and make you feel goooood.

Rondavu

05-31-2006, 06:45 PM

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Cash games > Sng. Skill edge exploited without bothersome blind escalation. Think about how you find yourself folding 22 late in a tourney because it becomes unprofitable.

I have a love affair with MTT however. Nothing beats the rush of a final table with a lot of $$ at stake.

It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.

jameseyb

06-01-2006, 12:05 PM

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Nothing beats getting down to the last few players in a tourney, with MTTs being even more of a rush, but cash is a more stable, more enjoyable way to play poker.

There's no sense of urgency, you can take your time, you can make the good hands count in a way that doesn't feel rushed, you can leave if you get bored or have a run of bad cards and go to another table.

I don't know. I have a special place for STTs in my mind, but I play mostly ring these days.

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Miffed22001

06-01-2006, 02:34 PM

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cash games>mtts>sngs.

Cash games kills the fish in one shot.
Mtts provide a lot of dead money for decent players because of fish
SNG's provide the closest point at which fish= good players because of blind escalation etc.

pokerroomace

06-01-2006, 02:35 PM

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Recently, I have only been playing SnG's because I think they're more skillful and I enjoy them so much more. Maybe, I'll carry on playing ring games now, though, since everyone seems to say that the ring is more profitable. I just don't like the possibility of loosing 25 dollars in one hand, whereas in SnG's I can only loose 10 and if I win I get 5 times more.

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Rondavu

06-01-2006, 03:05 PM

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I just don't like the possibility of loosing 25 dollars in one hand, whereas in SnG's I can only loose 10 and if I win I get 5 times more.

It's all relative. You can lose a stack at 25NL or buy into 3 $10 STT's and bubble them all. If you're bad you lose the money anyway.

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Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.

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06-01-2006, 03:08 PM

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Recently, I have only been playing SnG's because I think they're more skillful and I enjoy them so much more. Maybe, I'll carry on playing ring games now, though, since everyone seems to say that the ring is more profitable. I just don't like the possibility of loosing 25 dollars in one hand, whereas in SnG's I can only loose 10 and if I win I get 5 times more.

LOL

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06-01-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerroomace

I just don't like the possibility of loosing 25 dollars in one hand

play lower stakes games then.

gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

bigspenda73: But how much did you win?

jyms

06-01-2006, 03:42 PM

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I just don't like the possibility of loosing 25 dollars in one hand, whereas in SnG's I can only loose 10 and if I win I get 5 times more.

I love the possibility of WINNING $25 in one hand. I've never lost $25 in one hand. I wouldn't bet $25 in one hand without he nuts but I suck.

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06-01-2006, 05:05 PM

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I could care less which game is more skillful/profitable/enjoyable.

Other than free MTTs, I've only played full ring cash games and love it. I don't have the temperment for STT/MTT (having to take actions, focusing for 2+ hours, being wrecked by one poor play).

I have to imagine that the whole point of playing w/i one's bankroll is so "variance", regardless of format, becomes irrelevant.

flomo

06-01-2006, 05:36 PM

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i like all 3 -->ring, mtt's, and stt's.

i usually don't have 2-4 hours to play a mtt
ring is great for clearing bonuses
but my favorite is the single table sit and go tourneys

i love to kill stuff and stt's have the most killing per hour(according to poker office stats)

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theDEEPdish

06-01-2006, 08:13 PM

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I think that you can play an automatic brain dead strategy at sngs where your tight early and play push/fold late and its profitable wich i think is great if your not in the mood to play ring

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Cash games are def more proiftable but 10x harder to master than sngs.

Bmxicle

06-01-2006, 09:59 PM Post subject: Re: Cash Games > SNGs/MTTs

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Originally Posted by aislephive

Yep.

no need to Discuss.

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shysti

06-01-2006, 11:16 PM

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Im a tourny player by trade but realize ring may be where it's at:

PokerStars Game #5121745967: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/06/01 - 19:13:02 (ET)
Table 'Kentaurus' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Freds_1030 ($34.30 in chips)
Seat 2: nicolitag ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 3: ddownon16 ($16 in chips)
Seat 4: shysti ($30.80 in chips)
Seat 5: tenbob ($30.25 in chips)
Seat 6: illusions69 ($21.15 in chips)
ddownon16: posts small blind $0.10
shysti: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shysti [Qd Qs]
tenbob: folds
illusions69: calls $0.25
Freds_1030: folds
nicolitag: folds
ddownon16: calls $0.15
shysti: raises $0.50 to $0.75
illusions69: calls $0.50
ddownon16: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Ah 4s Tc]
ddownon16: checks
shysti: checks
illusions69: checks
*** TURN *** [Ah 4s Tc] [7s]
ddownon16: checks
shysti: bets $1
illusions69: calls $1
ddownon16: folds
*** RIVER *** [Ah 4s Tc 7s] [Qh]
shysti: bets $3
illusions69: raises $3 to $6
shysti: raises $23.05 to $29.05 and is all-in
illusions69: calls $13.40 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shysti: shows [Qd Qs] (three of a kind, Queens)
illusions69: mucks hand
shysti collected $40.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $43.05 | Rake $2.10
Board [Ah 4s Tc 7s Qh]
Seat 1: Freds_1030 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: nicolitag (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ddownon16 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: shysti (big blind) showed [Qd Qs] and won ($40.95) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 5: tenbob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: illusions69 mucked [Qc Ac]

nuff said.

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salsa4ever

06-01-2006, 11:30 PM

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I'm a cash player myself, but I've just discovered how profitable MTTs can be. The variance is huge, of course, but if you're properly rolled then this shouldn't be a problem.

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andy609

06-02-2006, 09:01 PM

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Tournaments require more luck imo; the bigger the tournament, the luckier you have to get. That's why I like cash games better now. I used to like tournaments better because I always got killed in cash games but I could still get lucky and do well in touraments.

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