Originally Posted by taipan168

The way to think about it is like this. You will hit two pair on the flop 2.2% of the time, trips 1.4% and a flush 0.8% and a full house 0.1%, so you hit a big hand on the flop about 4.5% of the time. Assuming opp stacks off every single time you hit a big hand (and doesn't redraw against you) then you need to be able to win 22.2x the amount you need to call to give you implied odds (ie. you need effective stacks of 22.2x the cost of your call).

However, opps generally won't stack off every time so you need to add some extra implied odds to take this into account. With ATC the correct number depends on how bad opp is (ie. will he stack off with Ax on an A65 flop?) but may well be 40-50x or so the amount we need to call.

That said, with suited connectors there is the possibility of flopping a monster draw such as an OESFD which increases the number of times we flop something worth continuing with. Not sure how to calculate this however, anybody else?

EDIT: The implied odds calculation above is why min raising preflop is such a bad idea in cash games and tourneys when blinds are low. BB gets such monster implied odds to call with any two trash cards and stack you if he/she flops something nice.