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Numbr2intheWorld
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08-29-2006, 08:29 PM
Post subject: Is c-betting 3/5-2/3 of the pot every time -EV? (Low stakes)
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I play low stakes, 25NL and 50 NL. I practically C-bet every time i make a preflop raise, in or out of position, unless i have a read.
Do you think this is a leak at low stakes?
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Rondavu
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08-29-2006, 08:39 PM
Post subject: Re: Is c-betting 3/5-2/3 of the pot every time -EV? (Low sta
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Originally Posted by Massimo
I play low stakes, 25NL and 50 NL. I practically C-bet every time i make a preflop raise, in or out of position, unless i have a read.
Do you think this is a leak at low stakes?
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Get a read. Generally speaking however, it's ok at 50NL. Not so good at 25NL.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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Miffed22001
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08-29-2006, 09:54 PM
Post subject: Re: Is c-betting 3/5-2/3 of the pot every time -EV? (Low sta
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Originally Posted by Massimo
I play low stakes, 25NL and 50 NL. I practically C-bet every time i make a preflop raise, in or out of position, unless i have a read.
Do you think this is a leak at low stakes?
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if you do it every time is it a leak?
Answer: No. I can guarentee you are wining more than you lose c-betting.
but
Are you maximising your return from c-betting?
Answer: No. Why are people so afraid to check when they miss? and check raise when they hit?
Most opponents at these stakes are so hopelessly bad they arent going to see the difference between a c/r and a c-bet. They are hardly capable of playing good cards, never mind making good decisions or interpreting your actions.
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Warpe
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Not c-betting is a bigger leak. Go with the smaller leak.
Miffed makes some good points, though. A lot of value get flushed when our c-bets are obvious and get picked off, so manage your table image and check part of the time. The c-bets you do make will have more credibility then.
More value gets missed when we habitually lead out on flops we hit when we could c/r against aggressive opponents who'll bet when checked to. Doing this part of the time will also make aware opponents more cautious about bluffing you, because they're not sure what a preflop raise, checked flop means from you. How many 'aware' opponents you're going to run into at 50NL is another question.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by Warpe
Not c-betting is a bigger leak. Go with the smaller leak.
Miffed makes some good points, though. A lot of value get flushed when our c-bets are obvious and get picked off, so manage your table image and check part of the time. The c-bets you do make will have more credibility then.
More value gets missed when we habitually lead out on flops we hit when we could c/r against aggressive opponents who'll bet when checked to. Doing this part of the time will also make aware opponents more cautious about bluffing you, because they're not sure what a preflop raise, checked flop means from you. How many 'aware' opponents you're going to run into at 50NL is another question.
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In short, not a lot of aware ones, but how many will bet when checked to and see a turn anyway? Answer: enough to make c/r ing an easy way to get players to put more money in the pot.
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