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bigred
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10-04-2004, 12:45 AM
Post subject: Buyins
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PROFESSIONAL TROLL
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When you guys sit down to a table, do you normally buy in with max, min, middle, %, etc?
I've been experiemnting at the .10/.25 table buying in at the minimum 10 or the maximum 25. I've found that with the max I can make money quicker, but I also lose money quicker and having a larger stack gives me a false sense of confidence which ends up hurting me.
The minimum seems to be working for me since if I am stupid and lose it all, its only 10 vs 25 and by playing patient and controlled I've managed to get up in the 60's for earning for a single table.
Do you guys have any suggestions as to approaching this situation?
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Les_Worm
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I always sit with the max. I am only going to put it all in the middle with the nutz and when that time comes I want to be able to double up big.
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The artist formerly known as Knish
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montimus
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Most people will tell you that you should take the max buy-in to whichever limit you play.
It can be good advice, but I don't think it's absolutely necessary to do that.
The last few weeks I've been playing a lot of .25/.50 limit and no limit. I never sat down at a table with more than 10 bucks. In limit, that affords you taking a beat or two, but leaves you easily able to win back up on a big hand.
With NL, I just bide my time, wait to hit a big one(either TPTK, or flopping something else big) and double up.
I've also played a considerable amount of 2/4, and I've never sat down with more than 30 there.
I understand the justification for sitting down with the max buy-in, but I made 310 in the last week sitting down with less than the max buy-in
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bigred
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I think I'd just rather win smaller amoutns when doubling up so that I also lose less amounts during bad beats instead of buying the max. Like I just landed a set with pock 2's with a 10 10 2 flop. Went all in when some guy reraised me and it turned out he had pocket 10's. That I really couldn't have predicted since he didn't preflop or anything. So instead of losing 25+ I lost 12.50.
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elipsesjeff
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You shouldnt worry about how much you could lose when playing, you should try to maximize you winnings. Yes, you could lose with your entire stack at a sitting but then again you could double up too.
I've played a NL table and hit quads and i was pissed I didnt have more money to bet because there four people betting and raising that I could have won a ton. Playing with a larger stack will only help you in the long run as you will be able to take more bad beats at a sitting and sit there long enough for bad beats to pay you back.
At Poker Star's .25/.50 LHE I would sit down with $25, this affords me with about 5-6 bad beats before i even remotey go bust. I have yet to bust out at any limit table with 50xBB, the most i've been down at one time there was 30BB then I built myself back up. You have to have enough to take the swings and bad beats at limit hold'em.
One thing I've learned from this site (mostly from fnord) that playing aggressive is the only way to go in limit....meaning dont worry about losing your stack, you can always put more in. But one thing you dont want to happen is when you have a hand, you cant maximize it for all its worth.
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Les_Worm
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Originally Posted by montimus
I've also played a considerable amount of 2/4, and I've never sat down with more than 30 there.
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Thats not even close to enough. You don't even have enough bets to play one hand deep.
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