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TalentedTom
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11-02-2005, 12:18 AM
Post subject: BR Multi-Tableing
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I recently got my br to 4.1k on the 100NL tables and am planning to move to 200NL when i hit 5k, but I play 8-10 tables at the same time. Do I require a larger BR than 25Xbuy-in or is this a solid amount?
I don't go through too many swings, 3 rebuy-s would be a maximum. Im not too tight or too lose (although i can be) My general style is the opposite of what everyone on the table is doing. I know that 20-25x thing goes for people who play 2-3 tables, but would this work in my case as well?
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How do you track your wins/ losses?
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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TalentedTom
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I use microsoft excel, I record my final total balance at the end of each session
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I used to use poker-tracker, but if I try to import 300+ hands at a time it freezez ALWAYS ( I do have the full version), so I got rid of it. I never used it too much anyway.
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I've never really tried 8-10 tables sucessfully;but as long as you can keep your focus on the tables and not get lost then you should be ok.
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TalentedTom
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Yeah it's just strange that 30-40% of my bankroll is in play, I feel if I loose a big pot in each table then its O O time :/
Multi tabling isnt a problem for me. I'm a former gamer. I do not play anymore but I used to with my buddies and we played very compedetivley, so i can mult-task like a crazy mofoker. I could probably play more tables but I don't have room on my screen for any more, cause the max desktop resulution is 1280x960 and each table is 800x600 so it becomes a problem squeazing them all in.
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Tom.S
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KoRnholio
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11-02-2005, 02:45 AM
Post subject: Re: BR Multi-Tableing
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Originally Posted by TalentedTom
I play 8-10 tables at the same time. Do I require a larger BR than 25Xbuy-in or is this a solid amount?
I don't go through too many swings, 3 rebuy-s would be a maximum.
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As long as you don't rebuy more than you plan to, or tilt too badly, you should be fine. But geez.. 8-tabling NL? I can barely 4-table limit hold'em, lol.
I have to admit that it would be scary having 30-40% of your bankroll at the tables at a given time (in NL.. since in LHE it doesn't matter at all).
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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Maybe you should just start off playing 4 tables or so while you get used to the higher stakes.
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Originally Posted by TalentedTom
Yeah it's just strange that 30-40% of my bankroll is in play, I feel if I loose a big pot in each table then its O O time :/
Multi tabling isn’t a problem for me. I'm a former gamer. I do not play anymore but I used to with my buddies and we played very competitively, so i can mult-task like a crazy mofoker. I could probably play more tables but I don't have room on my screen for any more, cause the max desktop resolution is 1280x960 and each table is 800x600 so it becomes a problem squeezing them all in.
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I don’t know how computer savvy you are but you know you can add more monitors. Adding one is easy, just plop in another video card, attach a monitor then tell windows you extend your desktop onto the other monitor. Bingo, you now have two monitors. To use it you just open a table and drag that window over to the new monitor. I use two monitors myself.
8 tableing NL? Wow. I can’t even play with more than 3 tables on a single monitor never mind trying to think about that many tables.
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Stakes: Playing $0.10/$0.25 NL
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Surf_Thug
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I 8-10 table NL all the time, It's not hard at all if you are camping, and using Poker tracker for reads.
I even have my laptop next to me and play a sit-n-go or two on it sometimes.
Once you play NL cash enough most of the decisions are pretty simple.
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Currently Playing 8 Tables of 25NL 10-Max.
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siknd
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i cant see how playing that many tables could be more profitable than 3-4 tabling. unless you are trying to clear bonuses or something. youre probably leaving a lot of money on the table x 10. and playing like that has got to stunt your learning curve and must hurt your real (live) game.
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UG
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8-10 tabling can be profitable, VERY profitable. I have noticed that I make about the same amount of money 2-3 tabling, though, rather than 8-tabling.
2-tabling you get to play more poker, where it doesn't matter so much what your cards are...only what your opponent thinks you have.
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TalentedTom
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Originally Posted by Surf_Thug
I 8-10 table NL all the time, It's not hard at all if you are camping, and using Poker tracker for reads.
I even have my laptop next to me and play a sit-n-go or two on it sometimes.
Once you play NL cash enough most of the decisions are pretty simple. |
Yeah after a while most descions are basic, with the touch of difficulty every now and then.
My question is, since I am playing with 8-10 buy-ins at a time, should I have more than 25?
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Tom.S
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Originally Posted by Surf_Thug
I 8-10 table NL all the time, It's not hard at all if you are camping, and using Poker tracker for reads.
I even have my laptop next to me and play a sit-n-go or two on it sometimes.
Once you play NL cash enough most of the decisions are pretty simple. |
Yeah after a while most descions are basic, with the touch of difficulty every now and then.
My question is, since I am playing with 8-10 buy-ins at a time, should I have more than 25? |
i think you should for sure
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I don't think you need to go much higher than 30 buyins. Playing all those tables should reduce variance and the suckouts don't seem to hurt as bad unless they all happen at once. If I lose a big hand, some other table captures my interest before I have time to get bent over it. I'm usuallly up enough on the other tables to offset the loss as well.
I play 4 right now. I'm not that great at those resource management games, so I think 4 is my limit. Plus, I would need a much bigger monitor...or two. I tried 1600x1200 and it's difficult to see everything going on. I'm going to post to see what monitor setups multitableers have in the tools of poker forum unless I can find an existing post.
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My live game is perfect. It doesn't hurt anything at all to 10 table, if anything It helps freshin up your basic poker playing skills, so everything is atomatic and I focus on reading players making moves with garbage hands, ect.. The basics don't even matter after you've played 10 tables for this long because the correct answer comes to you in a split second.
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Currently Playing 8 Tables of 25NL 10-Max.
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Originally Posted by Surf_Thug
I 8-10 table NL all the time, It's not hard at all if you are camping, and using Poker tracker for reads.
I even have my laptop next to me and play a sit-n-go or two on it sometimes.
Once you play NL cash enough most of the decisions are pretty simple. |
Yeah after a while most descions are basic, with the touch of difficulty every now and then.
My question is, since I am playing with 8-10 buy-ins at a time, should I have more than 25? |
If you're 10-tabling...The answer is yes *and* no. Back in my 8-tabling days my biggest downswing ever was only eight buyins, and that was played out over a two week period. Other than those two weeks I was a consistant winner 8-tabling, so I didn't even need 25 buyins to make it work for me...
Really just depends on how you play...I think 25 can be enough, but others would REALLY frown upon that.
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Sorry to get off topic, but you killed me at the 25NL table tonight. I want to marry you. Um, maybe I went too far . . .
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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Demiparadigm
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I'll address multitabling in more detail in my BR post.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=22364
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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TalentedTom
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I hate taking bad beats, especially back to back to back to back to back, KK vs AA 5 times in 2 days, then my AA gets cracked by KK.
I HATE YOU LEE JONES. So imma take a 1 week break from poker after today to relax my head   and do some 
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Tom.S
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Um, guys, this is a simple answer.
What is your standard deviation 2-4 tabling compared to 8-10 tabling. What is your bb/100 2-4 compared to 8-10.
If you are playing exactly the same, then the BR requirements are the same. Considering more action, I'll generally assume you aren't playing AS well. I don't have figures for you, but it depends on your play completely. I would guess you are only considering 8 tabling because you can multitask well, and in that case you shouldn't need much more per level of play.
Demi's thread is good 
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