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TylerK
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11-15-2004, 04:33 PM
Post subject: Bluff or semi-bluff play on the turn
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Here's a play I've been having a lot of trouble with. Let's say I raise preflop with AKs and the flop comes up rags. Let's assume for this hand that I am heads-up and have position. The flop is checked to me and I make a pot-sized bet. The other player calls. WHAT to do on the turn? I have no way to know if this player is slow-playing me or if he has nothing and is setting up for a bluff on the turn. If he bets the turn, I feel like I almost have to lay it down, which means the other player can take the pot with absolutely nothing. Any thoughts?
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Put your opponent on some holdings here. Would he check call with a decent pocket pair or similiar high cards? Does he call preflop with any 2 sooted? You need more information on the opponent. And playing afraid of the bluff is foolish anyway. If he wants to lead out and bet the turn, good for him. You can't call with 2 high cards and no read.
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Humphrind
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kansas City
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Depends on the player. What stakes are you playing?
In lower stakes you will run into slow-players more often. If I had 2 overs with no type of a draw, I may take the free turn card. If I had a good draw as well as overs, I would bet on the flop and most likely re-raise after a missed turn to get that information.
Again, this all depends on the bet size and the tendencies of the opponent.
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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LeFou
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
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Above advice is good; you need a read. Since he called a PF raise I'm assuming big cards and the flop missed him. Or a PP -- would've raised a set. Just easiest to go with that and not second guess yrself.
I would put a reasonable (near the pot) bet on the turn, as if I wanted to be called. Not because it's ultra-profitable, but because I want opp to be in the habit of checking to me and wondering if I'm about to bring him in.
Obviously I'd have to slow down if called and unimproved, and fold if raised.
But a good percentage of the time he'd let it go there. Big cards (exc. maybe AK) only has to let it go. And pp has to be afraid of a higher pp.
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