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Old 01-21-2008, 08:05 AM     Post subject: the biggest thing i have noticed about mico nl #1 (permalink)  

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 After my first 9k kands. People over value the heck out of mid and small pairs. I see the following all the time. Player A raises player B reraises. Then when it gets around to player C the pot has around 20 BB. Player C who has over 100 BB will then shove with a hand like pocket 5s. It's like they can't wait to get all there money in with a hand that is at best a small fav and could very well be dominated. Another thing is despite what some say 1/2 and 3/4 pot bets do not seem to be optimal. What i mean is people will call with draws and weak hands like bottom and middle pair even if you bet 1.5x the pot or better. In essence if you raise 1x pot and they call they likely would have called a bet of 1.5 pot
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:50 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Most people at micros have no idea how to play small-mid pocket pairs postflop, so they'd prefer to just push preflop and save themselves the hassle.
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:37 PM #3 (permalink)  
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There are some times I am 200% certain the guy just rivered a flush after calling a pot size bet on the flop and the turn.

I still call his river bet and see he was chasing me with middle pair.
Have in mind I raised preflop and the flop was A Q 7. And the guy chased with Q9 or soemthing like that.
Crazy.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:12 PM #4 (permalink)  
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true, to a point.

yes, you want to charge premium prices against chasers. yes, if they called a pot sized bet, they would have likely called more.

but, if you bet your missed flops and draws, too, you need to figure out how often those large sized bets need to work to keep them profitable.

if your villains will fold to smaller bets, too, you may consider the fact that you can now steal pots on the flop when you have completely missed, and avoid ramping up such huge pots when they call w/ Q9.
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:59 PM #5 (permalink)  
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This is micro stakes for you.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (7 handed)
saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($4.84)
SB ($4.79)
BB ($8.78)
UTG ($7.37)
MP1 ($5.16)
MP2 ($1.96)
CO ($9.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[], A[].
UTG calls $0.04, MP1 calls $0.04, MP2 calls $0.04, CO raises to $0.16, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.31, UTG folds, MP1 calls $0.31, MP2 folds, CO calls $0.19.

Flop: ($1.50) A[], Q[], 9[] (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets $0.2, CO calls $0.20, Hero raises to $1.2, BB folds, MP1 calls $1, CO folds.

Turn: ($4.10) K[] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.8, MP1 raises to $3.6, Hero calls $1.49 (All-In).

River: ($10.99) 9[] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $10.99

Results in white below:
MP1 has Jh Tc (straight, ace high).
Hero has Qc Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: MP1 wins $10.99.
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Looking at it now, I think I had to bet more after the flop. Perhaps 0.5 more or something. But something tells me he'd call me anyway.

Overal, did I really play that bad?
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:15 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 It's played fine. It's hard to know that there are 8 outs against you on that flop.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:42 PM #7 (permalink)  
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It's played fine. It's hard to know that there are 8 outs against you on that flop.
um, no. make a real 3bet pre to atleast 3x, preferrably 3.5x. Flop is played fine, and just shove the turn, theres no use betting <1/2 pot here.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:51 PM #8 (permalink)  
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It's played fine. It's hard to know that there are 8 outs against you on that flop.
um, no. make a real 3bet pre to atleast 3x, preferrably 3.5x. Flop is played fine, and just shove the turn, theres no use betting <1/2 pot here.
You mean 3x the pot after the guy raised 0.16?
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:59 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Pf he probably means 3x his raise...so make it at least .48 or .50 instead of .35.
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It's played fine. It's hard to know that there are 8 outs against you on that flop.
um, no. make a real 3bet pre to atleast 3x, preferrably 3.5x. Flop is played fine, and just shove the turn, theres no use betting <1/2 pot here.
You mean 3x the pot after the guy raised 0.16?
right, at least 3x
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:53 AM #11 (permalink)  
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It is bad that people call big raises with 55 against you??
They will often miss a flop and be forced to fold and you will collect a nice pot!!
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:41 PM     Post subject: Re: the biggest thing i have noticed about mico nl #12 (permalink)  
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