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Old 05-21-2010, 06:37 PM     Post subject: big blind hand for review #1 (permalink)  
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Villian is 17/10 over 65 hands
With his stats the limp/call was puzzling

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 10
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero bets $0.08, MP2 calls $0.06, SB calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.24) 2, 5, A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.18, MP2 raises to $0.78
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Old 05-21-2010, 08:09 PM #2 (permalink)  
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yeesh, i think i would call one street (but a fold is ok) but he's going to show up with 22 or 55 a lot here i think....so I don't mind a fold
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Old 05-21-2010, 08:13 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 defo fold
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Old 05-21-2010, 08:22 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Honestly the only way I'm making a call here is if he frequently has shown up raising here with missed boards, which seems unlikely as he is 17/10.. not nitty, but probably leaning towards Tight aggressive.. I'd say if this isn't a bluff he's showing up with AQ+, a set, or a strange multi-draw hand. when you say you were puzzled by his limp given his stats, I assume that beyond this he hadn't open limped..

I wouldn't be surprised to see him open limp given his stats in mp, though with most hands I'd raise here if I were him to hide my hand. He's 17/10 meaning that 7% of the time he calls in pf without raising, which is a like once per 1.5 rounds..

I fold here 99% of the time, unless I've seen him exploit this flop texture with that type preflop play and show up with a bad hand.. which I doubt.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:14 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 Just fold. I actually don't like AT oop and would not have raised it pre! Obviously if you were suited would have been better but I still would not have rasied pre. It's just not that strong and behind so often and you're stuck wondering if he has you crushed with AK,AQ,AJ. If you had checked how would this have been different? What did you gain by raising?

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Old 05-22-2010, 02:11 AM #6 (permalink)  
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raise is fine, nice cbet, easy fold
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:23 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:22 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Depends on his read of you. Have you been raising a lot of limpers lately? I don't think fold is obvious here. He could be bluffing easily if he puts you on TT-KK. Id say his range includes a couple sets, mostly missed pp's, and strong draws. I'd feel comfortable jamming if you've been really aggressive lately.
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:35 PM #9 (permalink)  
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fairly easy fold. At .01/.02, there is a fair amount of bluffing for no great reason, but since you can pick off the ones that happen when you have a stronger hand, it's not so important to try to catch them all.

In addition, there's always the possibility you're beat. Quite a few players at this level are weak tight, so the chances are decent you're drawing slim.
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Old 05-22-2010, 06:43 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Hero C-bet into 2 Preflop callers because....?

I mean it's ok as long as you think that they'll call with worse or fold better... but 2 is actually MORE than 2 times as hard to fold out than 1.

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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:40 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 without reads i probably fold.

as played, if im raising pre, im raising larger. the only reason i can think not to raise pre is being scared to play post or scared that we might get 3bet but that isnt gonna happen at 2nl too often. raise larger though so that the two limpers have to actually think about calling instead of just mashing the call button cuz its only 3bbs to go. Standard size would be like .12, but id probably raise a bit larger cuz we're getting called by a lot worse fairly often.

as played, im always value betting this flop. We have TP with a kicker thats rarely gonna be beaten, against ppl that will call down with a worse kicker as well as ppl with gutshots and flush draws...which we have redraws against. Im definately betting more though...closer to full pot.

after being raised, we dont really expect to be raised by alot of hands. It comes down to basically how likely u think he is to raise a worse Ace than yours, as well as how likely u think he is to raise a flush draw here. I probably fold.
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:55 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Hero C-bet into 2 Preflop callers because....?

I mean it's ok as long as you think that they'll call with worse or fold better... but 2 is actually MORE than 2 times as hard to fold out than 1.

ezfold.
Value from FD's, and sometimes gutshots/weaker aces?
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