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TylerK
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12-24-2004, 10:28 PM
Post subject: Betting the flop
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As some of you know and most of you don't, I've had quite the hellish losing week. I've been reviewing the hand histories for my biggest losers trying to figure out if there is something in particular that is losing me money. The theme that seems to be recurring is:
-I raise preflop
-I flop something, opponent flops a draw
-I bet the pot, taking away my opponent's odds to draw
-Opponent draws anyway, I lose the hand
Obviously I'm generalizing, but IN GENERAL can I keep playing this way assuming that this week's downswing is just variance talking? Or is there something there to be corrected?
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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your opponents won't fold a flush draw even if you put them all in. just stick with the plan and let the variance ride out.
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TylerK
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
your opponents won't fold a flush draw even if you put them all in. just stick with the plan and let the variance ride out.
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*should* I put them all-in then?? 
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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Cocco_Bill
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Originally Posted by TylerK
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
your opponents won't fold a flush draw even if you put them all in. just stick with the plan and let the variance ride out.
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*should* I put them all-in then?? |
How can you ever be sure that someone is on a flush draw? if you suspect it make a strong bet, but don't put all your chips at risk in case he just has your hand beat.
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TylerK
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Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
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Originally Posted by TylerK
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
your opponents won't fold a flush draw even if you put them all in. just stick with the plan and let the variance ride out.
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*should* I put them all-in then?? |
How can you ever be sure that someone is on a flush draw? if you suspect it make a strong bet, but don't put all your chips at risk in case he just has your hand beat. |
It was a joke 
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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gabe
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What else could you possibly do??
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elanto
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Ty thats variance talking, soon everything will level up an youll have a tremendous winning week..what can I say I love and hate flush chasers
-anto
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dalecooper
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It's just bad variance. You're getting the better of it against chasers but you want to bet as big as you can stomach while they don't have it, and then try to cut your losses when they do. Not much else can be recommended. If you know them to be on a flush draw, going all in isn't a bad tactic really, but your swings will only get bigger. The positive side is, when you're swinging up, you'll go far. 2/3 of the time they'll miss the draw and you'll tap-dance on their grave, with shoes made of their money. And other tortured metaphors.
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