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Old 01-01-2006, 12:44 PM     Post subject: Betting amounts #1 (permalink)  
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Heya all. Im still playing NLHE at micro limits and would consider my style to be TAGG. In any case i was wondering what should I be raising in certain situations?

When I raise preflop I 3x - 4x the BB plus the amount from those just calling the big blind.

If the flop is raised before me I will usually just call unless I have QQ to AA. With those hands I would reraise three times the the original raiser's raise.

On the flop, turn, and sometimes the river I pretty much always bet the pot. If there is a flush draw I will bet a little over the pot. Even with OESD and flush draws i bet the pot.

If I have a great but not unbeatable hand and it is raised to me I will generally bet three times the initial raise(ex I have trips and there is a possible flush or straight draw .

I realize a lot of this is situation dependent but it seems like I might be raising too much in certain situations. Thoughts?
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Old 01-01-2006, 01:36 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I don't like always pot betting. On a very draw heavy flop i will bet the pot but usually im going somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 pot betting. I think this gives you more control. It also depends who i am up against. If you are against someone who will call anything to draw then it is worth betting more on a draw heavy board. Against a semi-decent player who understands pot odds i am betting slightly smaller, allowing him to think his TPGK is good when i have TPTK but not overpaying his set in the same situation.
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Old 01-01-2006, 03:58 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 At micro's the temptation can be to just pot every street when you hit the flop with AQ/AK and get a call down on every street.
Basically, you dont need to pot the flop. So long as you are killing your opponents drawing odds or getting someone to call you down with a worse hand then you're doing the right thing. SO while a two to a flush flop is dangerous dont go mad defending your hand if you can avoid it. 2/3 the pot on the flop is fine (if they call 2/3rds they'll call a pot) half the pot on the turn is still killing odds and then bet the river too providing scare cards dont appear.
Just remember to try and kill a chasers odds and to know when to fold if you think they've hit, then you've played the hand fine and will make money than the chaser of bad odds will ever make.
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:01 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 As with everything in poker - it depends....

I dont think you can come up with a set of rules that will hold true in all cases, or even in most cases.

You should develop your 'baseline' of betting and then discuss the factors that modify this 'baseline'

The main factors that should affect betting are:

1. What is the goal of the bet - value bet, information bet, trying to brute force take the pot, limit the field etc...

2. How many people are in the hand and what are their play style

3. Your position

4. Action in previous betting rounds

5. Board fabric (possible, str8 and flush draw, paired board)

6. Stack sizes

and many other factors.

From the baseline you outlined
1. 3BB preflop raise is standard
2. Reraising 3BB of the opp initial raise - it highly depends on his raise amount, my default behaviour is doubling his bet
3. Pot sized bets are agressive, I modify my 'standard' postflop bet between 2/3 - 1.5 pot depending on the table structure


 
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