Originally Posted by bigboy5540

when i was first starting out, i found the best way to build a strong bankroll is through playing 5 then 10 dollar sngs. then moving up to 20 dollar sngs. i think this is the best way for any beginning player to build his/her roll because the sngs at these levels are so easily beatable for any player with even a basic understanding of push/fold when the blinds get big. Within one month, i had enough to play 100nl and i never looked back since. Grinding at 25 nl these days is just not what it used to be. Money is much slower. just a tip to the people trying to build a roll. What you guys think?

Originally Posted by jameseyb

I must be doing something seriously wrong then...

My recent form on 5 and 10 dollar SNGs is woeful indeed and I am struggling to finish ITM. Ring is a bit better, but I am only making money at the IP $10NL tables. I play $25NL on Party and lose money in hands that I should be winning.

Ok, I'm new to all this as well (about 1.2k hands in four months) but, when people say that they moved up to 100NL in a few months, it makes me wonder how many hands they are playing and how much time they are devoting to poker every day.

I'd like to play more, but I have a job that takes up about 10 hours of my life a day. I also have limited money to spend on my learning tax, that's why I dropped down to $10NL. I plan to stay there until I murder the game every time I sit down, then I'm going to go back to the $25NL tables and play them until I murder them.

Is this the best thing to be doing?

Originally Posted by jameseyb

I plan to stay there until I murder the game every time I sit down,

Originally Posted by Renton

I think the best way of building a bankroll is to be a Holdem Master and rake HUGE pots off of fish with any two cards. You know, open push with the nuts and have four people call.

That's how I am doing it anyways.

Originally Posted by underminedsk

just so new players dont get confused, it doesnt actually happen like this. I've probably had the situation "open push for the nuts and have four people call" happen maybe once in my poker career.

What exactly were you trying to say here?

NL ring is a pure grind, no matter what strategy you employ. It certainly isnt a "get rich quick" scheme, especially at the lower limits. Building a bankroll takes an extrodinary amount of time and effort and an out-of-control obsession with the game. Over the past 10 months, I've personally put alot more time into this "hobby" than I'd care to add up.
Playing and building your BR is alot of fun, but remember that it comes with the price of alot of stress, and inevitable huge downswings.

Just a heads up.

Originally Posted by Renton

i was just making fun of bigboy some more.

Originally Posted by bigboy5540

oh and guys on a serious note. I have found that when i first started playing, contrary to #1 of irish eyes' post (the whole thing was a great post otherwise), sngs and ring games really compliment eachother well. Sngs and ring games teach different sets of skill that are even more useful when you understand them through experiance. Combined, they will make you a better poker player when you finally decide to settle on a certain game as your bread and butter.

Originally Posted by jameseyb

Irish,

Fantastic post!

Originally Posted by jameseyb

The one issue I have is with multi-tabling. I tried it once for a few hands and it takes a lot of concentration, arguably too much at the level I am playing at right now. I'll give it a try at $10NL and see what happens though.

Originally Posted by bigboy5540

oh and guys on a serious note. I have found that when i first started playing, contrary to #1 of irish eyes' post (the whole thing was a great post otherwise), sngs and ring games really compliment eachother well. Sngs and ring games teach different sets of skill that are even more useful when you understand them through experiance. Combined, they will make you a better poker player when you finally decide to settle on a certain game as your bread and butter.