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star5328
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02-10-2005, 04:50 PM
Post subject: beat with big pairs
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Last night i was having a big problem with my big pairs...Im wondering if any of you guys will lay down KK or QQ preflop in any situation? I was playing .05 and .10 on pstars, and i would get KK or QQ, raise, get re-raised, and then i would re-raise all in, get called, and lose to a higher pair. It was quite frustrating that someone happened to have an overpair to my KK or QQ.
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LeFou
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2004
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With QQ you need position to reraise all-in.
But I think it's just a bad run. These are the hands everyone is waiting for, and when you get 'em you gotta push back when pushed. Unless you KNOW the opp is tight enough to fold anything but the big pairs and AK in the face of such a raise. At .05/.10 there are very few such players.
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dalecooper
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Yes, I will (and have) fold queens if I there's a bunch of raise/re-raise stuff going on pre-flop. I will usually not fold kings. The chance of someone having aces vs. your kings is low enough that it's worth the risk to just push all in and hope for the best. Queens are more vulnerable, particularly since AK is basically a coinfip vs. you, and you'd think that's the minimum hand someone would be in there raising and re-raising with.
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ilikeaces86
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Yea need to fold QQ when you think your beat.
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star5328
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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yea i was telling myself last night when it was happening that it had to be a bad run because the chances cant be good that someone will have an overpair to my qq or kk as much as they did...thx guys.
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Zangief
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by LeFou
With QQ you need position to reraise all-in.
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I thought once you re-raised all-in, position was irrelevant. Can you explain this, please?
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res1cue
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Zangief
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Originally Posted by LeFou
With QQ you need position to reraise all-in.
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I thought once you re-raised all-in, position was irrelevant. Can you explain this, please? |
I think that he means that you are better off in late position with QQ before going all in because you get to see the action before it gets to you.
that my guess.
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DrumzCT
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 159
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Right.
Position matters before you push all in because obviously, then you flip em over and throw down the board.
The position is referring to when you decide to push em in.
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BigFunBiggie
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
Ive layed down Q/Q a bunch of times
it looks a lot better in the hole than it does when that flop comes out
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Sounds like a woman talking about...uhh, you know.
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LeFou
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Zangief
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Originally Posted by LeFou
With QQ you need position to reraise all-in.
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I thought once you re-raised all-in, position was irrelevant. Can you explain this, please? |
Hehe. I pulled a Zangief.
Out of position I'm not reraising AI with queens if someone in back raises. I'll call and go in if there's no A or K.
If i'm in back, I get to see two of opps actions before pushing, if I'm gonna. More to go on. Maybe opp thinks I'm stealing. etc.
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