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bikes
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kickass $.85/f
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikes
All in.
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Thx. That's what I did.
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Explain...what I do for a living without saying "I make monies in da 600 enels by pwnin' tha donk bitches". Instead I say "I'm a online financial redistribution broker". - Sasquach991
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kickass
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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($8.20)
kickass (UTG+1) ($10)
MP1 ($11.61)
MP2 ($10.16)
MP3 ($7.33)
CO ($10)
BTN ($6.95)
SB ($5.95)
BB ($4.25)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) kickass is UTG+1 
1 fold, kickass raises to $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30, 6 folds
Flop: ($0.75, 2 players)
kickass bets $0.50, MP1 raises to $2.25, $1.75 to kickass ($9.2)?
no reads or stats. rush. maybe timing tells though snap called pre fast as fuck snap raised on the flop. you fold here? call fold turn to shove? call shove? lead turn?
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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call call call
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Hoopy
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($10)
UTG ($10.34)
Hero (Button) ($11.17)
SB ($10.58)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , A
1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold
Flop: ($0.90) K , 3 , 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB calls $0.70
Turn: ($2.30) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50
River: ($5.30) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ?????
77/25 over 40 hands, 1/3 fold to cbet.
This guy's shaping up to be a pretty big fish, should I just pot/overbet flop and pot turn to get all the money in by the river (assuming decent runout) or bet like I did to widen his overall calling range on both streets?
As played what's the plan on the river? Shove/ b/f smallish/check.
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I'd bet like 3ish and almost never expect to be shoved on ever.
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[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
[00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol
Problem officer...?
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I'm bet/calling for like 3.50-4.50 here. If the fish has the FH, csb.
Edit: Definitely leading towards the larger end of the spectrum here since he's going to call down with any Kx, probably TT, QQ, TJ, QJ, ummm he's more than likely jamming FDs on you so you can't really bet/fold here since:
KK = 1 combo
JJ = 3 combos
33 = 1
99 = 3
Flushes = a lot. :P
bet/fistpumpsnapgetitin
I don't even mind a bet of like $6 here just to get that much more value out of his one/two pair hands.
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more on turn a little less than pot on river
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$2.99/fold
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Really spenda? Reasoning why?
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why the fold or why the sizing?
I'd expect to get jammed over a very small % of the time, he'll probably call us every now and then with a better hand though, but the majority of the time he calls we'll ship it, and he's never c/bluffshoving here nor is he jamming like KQ for value or something silly like that.
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oic nevermind, I thought we had the nut flush.
<- hand reading fail.
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($6.13)
Hero (BB) ($11.47)
UTG ($14.95)
MP ($9.85)
CO ($7.85)
Button ($2.69)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , K
UTG bets $0.40, MP calls $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, 1 fold
Hero raises to ???????
UTG looks like an aggro whale so far and should call very wide to my 3bet. Others are 19/0 and 23/20 over 40 hands.
What's our 3bet sizing bearing in mind BTN only has 23BB left behind?
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i probably pop it to like $2
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I would just do a standard 3.5-4X 3bet. If UTG is aggro, he may 4bet it. Btn is likely to fold or shove. So if you don't want to build a big pot with a speculative hand, you might want to just call and see a cheap flop. If you hit a good flop, just let the aggro whale value-town himself. If you miss the flop then you can get out cheap.
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Explain...what I do for a living without saying "I make monies in da 600 enels by pwnin' tha donk bitches". Instead I say "I'm a online financial redistribution broker". - Sasquach991
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$1.70 with AK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikes
$1.70 with AK
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~4x seems relatively small when there have been two flat-callers and we are out of position 100% postflop. do you choose this size because we want to encourage dominated Ax hands to continue? what is your reasoning for preferring 1.7 over 2.2 (or any arbitrarily chosen >5x sizing)
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Opp was 13/8 over a small sample, ~40 hands.
$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG eugmac ($3.55)
UTG+1 Parenel ($2.03)
MP1 Abanshin ($4.44)
MP2 jksever ($2)
CO harrymouse18 ($2.17)
BTN cenko83 ($1.58)
SB slash hpr ($2.45)
BB liuyu8125 ($1.50)
Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 8 players) eugmac is UTG 
eugmac raises to $0.08, 2 folds, jksever calls $0.08, 4 folds
Flop: ($0.19, 2 players)
eugmac bets $0.16, jksever calls $0.16
Turn: ($0.51, 2 players)
eugmac bets $0.44, jksever raises to $1.02, eugmac folds
Final Pot: $1.97
jksever wins $1.88 (net +$0.62)
eugmac lost $0.68
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^ wp
edit: ^ wp *imo*
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One from this morning:
Villain is running 21/16, 3b PF 2 out of 30 (7%), very aggro. Small sample size for the 3b stat, but I think his range is much wider than JJ+, AK.
$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
7 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG MRPokeeeer99 ($5.30)
UTG+1 slimjimpunx ($2.02)
MP bulldogx1 ($5.01)
CO eugmac ($2)
BTN DirkSchoen ($1.99)
SB maemoStar ($4.39)
BB Jokie707 ($2.02)
Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 7 players) eugmac is CO 
3 folds, eugmac raises to $0.06, 1 fold, maemoStar raises to $0.20, 1 fold, eugmac calls $0.14
Flop: ($0.42, 2 players)
maemoStar checks, eugmac checks
Turn: ($0.42, 2 players)
maemoStar bets $0.30, eugmac calls $0.30
River: ($1.02, 2 players)
maemoStar bets $0.45, eugmac calls $0.45
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I'd fold river
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I wouldn't
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wouldn't dream of folding the river ever
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No way I'm folding this river
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Quote:
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I'd fold river
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I change to call after rereading the board.
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JJ hand looks good on all streets
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Merge No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Merge Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($27.13)
UTG ($26.63)
MP ($78.31)
CO ($25.35)
Button ($30.48)
Hero (SB) ($27.96)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 , 7
2 folds, CO bets $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold
Flop: ($1.95) 6 , 3 , 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.46, Hero calls $1.46
Turn: ($4.87) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks
River: ($4.87) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.24, Hero ?
villain is 20/13 over 15 hands (lolsamplesize) and has attempted to steal 1 out of 4 times.
he hasnt seen a flop yet where he was the initial raiser
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i'd fold river, there not too many 6 in his range, maybe 67s 1 combo and 2 A6s, but there are enough Tx in his preflop range to fold river.but i am a loser so 25nl so you better listen so some better players
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All posts are just my own opinion about a hand or a general situation... not advices on how you should play...
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Merge No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Merge Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP ($14.49)
Button ($25)
SB ($34.48)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($17.50)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button bets $1.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85, 1 fold
Flop: ($2.55) 7 , 2 , 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero calls $2
Turn: ($6.55) K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25
River: ($15.05) K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button raises to $17.65 (All-In), Hero folds
Total pot: $15.05
villain only has 9 hands, opened once in the button last orbit and thats the only time he has VPIP'd
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@Philly
1. Fold river. Tighter players at these stakes just don't bluff often enough with this line at all and will check tp or even sometimes overpairs on the turn. Think you'll see Tx 6x and random nuttier hands more often than bluffs by quite a bit.
2. 3-bet preflop for value unless the limper is some kind of huge tard. I'd c/r flop for value, there are loads of worse hands calling here and he might even spazz since you don't rep a whole lot. As played, calling turn and folding river to this jam looks about right to me.
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Merge No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Merge Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP ($23.32)
Hero (CO) ($35.47)
Button ($16.80)
SB ($7.29)
BB ($15.42)
UTG ($18.75)
Preflop: Hero is CO with J , J
2 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50
Flop: ($1.60) 6 , 2 , 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.60, BB raises to $3.70, Hero raises to $34.72 (All-In), BB calls $10.97 (All-In)
Turn: ($30.94) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($30.94) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $30.94
31/17 over 36 (lol samplesize), he raised the only cbet he has seen but didnt show it down ...i just figure hes def calling with worse or should i just call to the raise and let him keep bluffing if he has bluffs?...or i guess folding is an option but i dont really see folding here
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Villein was 9/9 over 10 hands.
Not used to people being aggro in 3bet pots. Thoughts?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP ($14.90)
CO ($28.28)
Button ($14.58)
SB ($39.76)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($26.13)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K , K
2 folds, CO bets $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.75, CO calls $2
Flop: ($5.60) 5 , 10 , J (2 players)
Hero bets $4, CO raises to $25.53 (All-In), Hero ?????
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You need > 36% equity to call.
vs TT+ you have 38% equity. Add in AK you get 47% equity. If you can include KQ in his range 52%. Calllll.
and that's with a tight CO 3bet calling in position - throw in JT, 55, and 98s you've still got 42% equity.
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bump and weaktight | Hand | 39o - $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem both blinds are bad regs bb is 20/8 or something also called flop very fast and bet river very fast
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gotta call here you chop far too often and really only lose to like T9 and 22
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I damage threads that may actually benefit some posters
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bikes
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wait i misread the hh folding seems fine
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I damage threads that may actually benefit some posters
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