Originally Posted by Jamjoe

This is true pgil - i think ROI can drop to as little as 4% at $335 according to 2+2 while i guess a cash players return would not drop so significantly.

Anyway i was just looking for thougths on the matter - i guess rakeback/bonuses and pgil's comment about the higher stakes edges are what does it.

And spoon, i make it my long term goal to play at the same tables as you although Im not sure this would be a profitable idea

Originally Posted by Jamjoe

And spoon, i make it my long term goal to play at the same tables as you although Im not sure this would be a profitable idea

Originally Posted by daven

interesting. I think there are better goals, like getting better, pwning levels, moving up, still getting better, etc... oh, and even better would be to be playing the same levels as spoon and have him scared to sit down at a table with you
it's the whole compete against a person vs yourself, i'm toying with this with respect to running times at the moment, and went through it for a while with climbing...
what are your basic long term poker goals spoon? I'm curious

Originally Posted by Chopper

spoon, you are treading into dangerous waters now.

you have a choice that you need to sort out...w/ long term ramifications.

the money is tempting to chase, true. you are making more than you will likely make as a teacher, true. but, is money everything? some say yes. some say no. that is your dilema.

chase the dollar (for family independence w/ its own sacrifices), or chase the SATISFACTION of making a difference in lives.

tough one for a college-aged guy. but, one we ALL have to go through. part of the maturation process.

Originally Posted by Chopper

spoon, you are treading into dangerous waters now.

you have a choice that you need to sort out...w/ long term ramifications.

the money is tempting to chase, true. you are making more than you will likely make as a teacher, true. but, is money everything? some say yes. some say no. that is your dilema.

chase the dollar (for family independence w/ its own sacrifices), or chase the SATISFACTION of making a difference in lives.

tough one for a college-aged guy. but, one we ALL have to go through. part of the maturation process.

Originally Posted by Chopper

lets not forget the intangibles...

- sit down when you want.
- leave when you are tired.
- easier to find fish and sit with them...by far.

those are just some.

its not like you can sit for a "3 hour shift" in SNGs. you go deep in one, and you have NO control of when you can go to the grocery store....or pick up the kids from daycare...lol.

Originally Posted by JustMe

This is the biggest reason I play cash vs. SNG's/MTT's. I'm a mother of 4 and sometimes I can't play for more than a 1/2 hour here and there before they're bugging me for a ride or just plain driving me crazy!

If I know I'll have at LEAST 3 or 4 hours to myself, I'll register in a MTT, but otherwise I just don't have the time. I don't do too well at SNG's for whatever reason.

Originally Posted by Robb

Awesome post JustMe! Glad to see you in the forums.

I play mostly in evenings while twin toddlers are (not) falling asleep. So the advantage of having the "sit out" button be neutral EV in cash games is important. I can jump up from the computer to deal with whatever post-bedtime mayhem is occurring.

Spoon - you've heard my thoughts already, but add this to your calculus. Professors/instructors gets TONS of time off. And you don't have to teach summers to get full time bennies like health insurance. Your 9-month contract comes w/ insurance and retirement, so any summer work is gravy $$. You could basically play poker full time 5 months a year (Dec, May, June, July, half-Aug + Spring Break/Thanksgiving) and teach math + do part-time poker the other 7. And have perqs and bennies which are MUCHO valuable if and when you start having baby spoons.