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Old 11-14-2005, 10:31 PM     Post subject: Bad or good push? #1 (permalink)  
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No HH since they suck on bodog

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I'm dealt AdKd on the button. Couple of limpers, I raise, BB and one of the limpers call.

Flop comes Ac/10c/Js . BB(aggro, and likes to lead out flops) bets $1.5, or about half the pot. Limper folds, I reraise to $4, BB calls. Turn comes Qs. BB bets $2, making the pot about $13, I push for my remaining $17. BB thinks and calls down with Jc9c, and proceeds to river a club.

My question is, should I have put out a value bet on the turn, to be certain that he calls, and to still have a chance to get away from it on the river, if a club does indeed fall?
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Results oriented much?

I think the flop is an easy call, from there you got it in with the best of it.
 
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Old 11-15-2005, 03:06 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Would you seriously considerinf folding at that point on the river if a club came? No. Then why would you consider betting less on the turn.

You got your money in with the nuts. What else can you ask for?
 
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Old 11-15-2005, 06:03 AM     Post subject: Re: Bad or good push? #4 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Anon.E.Moose
No HH since they suck on bodog

25nl

I'm dealt AdKd on the button. Couple of limpers, I raise, BB and one of the limpers call.

Flop comes Ac/10c/Js . BB(aggro, and likes to lead out flops) bets $1.5, or about half the pot. Limper folds, I reraise to $4, BB calls. Turn comes Qs. BB bets $2, making the pot about $13, I push for my remaining $17. BB thinks and calls down with Jc9c, and proceeds to river a club.

My question is, should I have put out a value bet on the turn, to be certain that he calls, and to still have a chance to get away from it on the river, if a club does indeed fall?
If you read him as a fish then you made the correct play. However, I would have only bet enough on the turn to commit him to call on the river. By the end of this hand I want to double up, but I don't have to do it on the turn when a VERY scary card comes out. Usually only the other K will call your all-in bet there. You make it way too easy for the two pair to fold.

With that said, I still lose the same amount of money as you did. So don't worry about that.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:53 AM #5 (permalink)  
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if i think hes drawing i push, if i think he has 2pair/straight i play it hard but enough for him to make a call.
if the button is aggro id reraise at every street killing all his odds
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