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MRoper18
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08-08-2006, 05:26 AM
Post subject: Avoiding Bad Beats...
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I have a problem with my poker game. I am a magnet for bad beats! In an average tournament, I will lose 3 out of the 4 hands that I lose to a bad beat, sometimes even less than that. Is it because I play online mostly? Am I just a bad player? Unlucky? It seems when I buy into a tournament, I am buying a lottery ticket with slightly better odds than the rest of the people at the table, because I know that luck is what will decide my fate (bad luck more specifically). Not to sound cocky, but I cannot remember the last time that I have been eliminated from a tourny when I didn't put all my chips in with the best hand.
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martindcx1e
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hurray tournaments!
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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Lukie
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You have to be careful of which sites you play on. If you play on Lee or Dikshit's site, you can pretty much be gaurenteed about 10 times the beats that you would 'supposed' to get over a similar time period. Hope this helps.
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bigspenda73
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Getting your money in with best hand is great, try getting your money in with the best hand after the river, I hear that works too. It would also be advantageous to have more chips than your opponents.
Honestly dude, bad beats happen a ton and they always will. If you play good poker you generally will get sucked out on way more than you will do it to other ppl. That is just the way it works. What sucks about poker is you can play perfectly relative to your competition and lose, there are not many other sports like that. In fact, I cannot think of anything like it.
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Ash256
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The only way to avoid getting busted out due to bad beats is to make sure you always get your money in bad.
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Rondavu
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Originally Posted by Lukie
You have to be careful of which sites you play on. If you play on Lee or Dikshit's site, you can pretty much be gaurenteed about 10 times the beats that you would 'supposed' to get over a similar time period. Hope this helps.
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Who is Dikshit? Oh wait, is that king party fish?
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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Halv
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Originally Posted by Ash256
The only way to avoid getting busted out due to bad beats is to make sure you always get your money in bad.
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Had to read this twice to really get the trueness of it. This is by far the best (non-sarcastic) response to any random bad beat. You rock!
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by Rondavu
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Originally Posted by Lukie
You have to be careful of which sites you play on. If you play on Lee or Dikshit's site, you can pretty much be gaurenteed about 10 times the beats that you would 'supposed' to get over a similar time period. Hope this helps.
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this is correct
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Fnord
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anurag_Dikshit
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Warpe
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hmmm...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fnord
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deadgoat
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The only way to avoid bad beats is to simple call to the river then get all your money in when you have the nuts. But doing this misses out on alot of very profitables situations.
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jackvance
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Yesterday I had a fun tourney.. I played a grand total of 3 hands, all-in preflop, and the only one I won was the one where I went in behind.
EArly in the tourney, I raise AK to 3BB, donkey goes allin, I call figuring I'm ahead of his range. He flips A3 and hits trip 3s. Then I have almost nothing left, next hand I go allin with 45o, get a call from ATs and I win with 4s full of 5s. Then I go allin with K3 and get called by 9T.. I'm a slight favorite here, so obviously I busted out.
Rigged. You should totally be going allin with crap hands.
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Sarcasm is your body's natural defense against stupidity
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KingLizard
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08-10-2006, 07:32 PM
Post subject: Re: Avoiding Bad Beats...
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Originally Posted by MRoper18
I have a problem with my poker game. I am a magnet for bad beats! In an average tournament, I will lose 3 out of the 4 hands that I lose to a bad beat, sometimes even less than that. Is it because I play online mostly? Am I just a bad player? Unlucky? It seems when I buy into a tournament, I am buying a lottery ticket with slightly better odds than the rest of the people at the table, because I know that luck is what will decide my fate (bad luck more specifically). Not to sound cocky, but I cannot remember the last time that I have been eliminated from a tourny when I didn't put all my chips in with the best hand.
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Having just started on MTTs (to relieve the boredom at times from 25NL), I agree the bad beats suck. BUT ... the times I have made the FT have come from ME delivering the "bad beat". They happen. Sometimes they work against you ... other times they work for you. I play mostly $5 MTTs (from 250-550 players) and ... yes ... it does seem like a lottery for the 1st hour. That's when I try to stay out of the way unless I pick up a good hand.
Good luck and hang in there.
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Play luckier. Problem solved.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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08-10-2006, 09:03 PM
Post subject: Re: Avoiding Bad Beats...
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Originally Posted by MRoper18
I have a problem with my poker game. I am a magnet for bad beats! In an average tournament, I will lose 3 out of the 4 hands that I lose to a bad beat, sometimes even less than that. Is it because I play online mostly? Am I just a bad player? Unlucky? It seems when I buy into a tournament, I am buying a lottery ticket with slightly better odds than the rest of the people at the table, because I know that luck is what will decide my fate (bad luck more specifically). Not to sound cocky, but I cannot remember the last time that I have been eliminated from a tourny when I didn't put all my chips in with the best hand.
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Why dont you bad beat them back? 
Not much you can do about it, except as other posters said, build a stack earlier so you can withstand bad beats. And wait till river to make your move?
When you think about it, you are only 25% to win 2 coinflips. So the more races you get in with your whole stack, the more likely you are to be eliminated.
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bantam222
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You will have to get lucky to place deap in a MMT. Even if you play "perfect" poker and manage to get all your chips in the middle with AA vs an underpair as a 4:1 fav, you will still have to get lucky to win them all and finsih deap.
(4/5)^5 = .32
2 out of 3 tournys you will get "bad beatted" out of and theres nothing you can do, I hope this makes sence
"If there wasn't luck involved I would win them all"
-Phil Hellmuth
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