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trilerian
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11-04-2009, 08:48 PM
Post subject: ATo, in the bb, hit 2 pr on river facing raise all-in.
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Straight
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1st, raise pre was a misclick raise, I wanted to raise, but I wanted to raise to 4xbb.
UTG has just sat at the table about 12 hands ago, and has limped in 1 time prior and folded on the flop. When UTG calls my bet on the flop I think he has weak A's, maybe connected J's and smaller pp's. Turn I check, I'm not sure if this is right, my thinking is tpgk not good for 3 streets of value, and I want to place a river bet, thinking I get most of his range to call on the river whereas he folds a lot of J's and weak A's here on the turn if I bet. Also I could be behind AK, AQ. Turn, I bet 2/3 for value, his raise all in can easily be JT here, which I have him on, and could possibly be an idiot trying to slow play AK, or could be a bluff, or...
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (BB) ($2.12)
UTG ($1.38)
MP ($1.34)
CO ($5.01)
Button ($2.01)
SB ($1.06)
Preflop: Hero is BB with  , 
UTG calls $0.02, 4 folds, Hero bets $0.06, UTG calls $0.04
Flop: ($0.13)  ,  ,  (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, UTG calls $0.10
Turn: ($0.33)  (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks
River: ($0.33)  (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, UTG raises to $1.22 (All-In), Hero ???
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settecba
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1.How much equity do you need to breakeven? Call this number E*
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Originally Posted by trilerian
Turn, I bet 2/3 for value, his raise all in can easily be JT here, which I have him on, and could possibly be an idiot trying to slow play AK, or could be a bluff, or...
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2. Define his range(bolded part)
3. Whats your equity vs that range? Call this number E (use Pokerstove for this part if you dont want to do it manually)
4.If E>=E*, then call. If not fold.
5. Experiment with different ranges adding and removing hands, and see how your equity changes.
If you need any help doing this, or dont understand some part of it, just ask for help, join the IRC, search the forum, whatever you feel comfortable with.
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Originally Posted by ISF
Getting good at poker is like that scene in the matrix where Neo suddenly sees that everyone is just a bunch of structured numbers and then he starts bending those numbers in really weird ways.
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bjsaust
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TT is the only hand I can concievably put him on that beats you now that played this way. Surely any kind of set would bet turn when checked to.
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Parasurama
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Full House
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call because he probably has JT/bluffs as often as KQ or a set
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trilerian
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Straight
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Alright, I just ran some numbers, and I need 58%+ to call. With a range of TT, AQs+, KQs, JTs, AQo, KQo, JTo, I have 56.4%. So the numbers say I should fold, unless I can add more hands for him bluffing.
Is my thinking on the turn good? Or should I be betting?
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kmind
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How'd you get 58%+ to call?
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trilerian
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Straight
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1.7:1 pot odds. Or is that wrong?
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dranger7070
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The equation would be 1.02 (what we need to call) / (1.02 + 1.77) = your equity needed to call.
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trilerian
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Well that's like 37%, I have to try really hard to get my hand that bad vs his range, so easy call.
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kmind
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That's right but you calculated it wrong when turning it into a percentage. Here's a link that will explain it: http://www.coolantconsultants.com/mi...ercentages.htm
So basically you need to do the equation 1.02/2.77 (or 1/2.7) = 37% which is a big change.
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dranger7070
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www.spoonitnow.com will be a blessing for your poker maff skillz.
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trilerian
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Straight
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Originally Posted by dranger7070
www.spoonitnow.com will be a blessing for your poker maff skillz.
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Thanks kindly.
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