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apunisher
Old 06-06-2006, 10:12 PM     Post subject: AQs : TP nut flush draw on flop #1 (permalink)  
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Cbet seemed reallly weak, like possibly kk, qq trying to see where they were at. After the reraise, i knew i was behind, the only hand i was really scared of and i wouldn't be getting good odds was aa, and i think the times when he has ak justify calling given that im slightly less than a coinflip against ak.

***** Hand History for Game 4455206304 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, June 06, 18:03:47 ET 2006
Table Nuts & Gum (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: weepeel ( $41.05 )
Seat 2: rbour11 ( $33.75 )
Seat 3: Spilerz ( $45.39 )
Seat 4: captain_mo17 ( $58.25 )
Seat 6: adnmishy ( $23.38 )
Seat 8: CashTroll ( $48 )
Seat 10: SanRam ( $51.88 )
Seat 7: AATrain01 ( $34.60 )
Seat 9: badandy222 ( $23.45 )
Seat 5: sunryder ( $48 )
captain_mo17 posts small blind [$0.25].
sunryder posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AATrain01 [ Qd Ad ]
adnmishy raises [$2].
AATrain01 calls [$2].
CashTroll folds.
badandy222 folds.
SanRam folds.
weepeel folds.
rbour11 folds.
Spilerz folds.
captain_mo17 calls [$1.75].
sunryder folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, 3d, 7d ]
captain_mo17 checks.
>You have options at Table 96334 Table!.
adnmishy bets [$3].
AATrain01 raises [$8].
captain_mo17 folds.
adnmishy is all-In [$18.38]
AATrain01 calls [$13.38].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2h ]
>You have options at Table 95838 Table!.
AATrain01 shows [ Qd, Ad ] a pair of aces.
adnmishy shows [ As, Ac ] three of a kind, aces.
adnmishy wins $46.81 from the main pot with three of a kind, aces.
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:23 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I suck at playing AQ, I like to raise it or maybe call a raise while in LP, I dunno about calling an UTG raise with it though, so Id fold preflop, but dont think its much of a mistake to call.

His flop bet may be weak, but your raise is also very weak and is barely more than a minraise.

Wait, I just realized you have a stack of 69BBs, reaload preflop.

You are way behind a set, and Id be worried about 33 and 77 as well, but given the stack sizes I dont think I could fold to that, in fact I may just push over his raise because the effective stack is so small.
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:35 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I suck at playing AQ, I like to raise it or maybe call a raise while in LP, I dunno about calling an UTG raise with it though, so Id fold preflop, but dont think its much of a mistake to call.

His flop bet may be weak, but your raise is also very weak and is barely more than a minraise.

Wait, I just realized you have a stack of 69BBs, reaload preflop.

You are way behind a set, and Id be worried about 33 and 77 as well, but given the stack sizes I dont think I could fold to that, in fact I may just push over his raise because the effective stack is so small.
Do u think he would be raising 33 or 77 utg 4xbb? And do u mean push over his initial bet of 3?
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:45 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Do u think he would be raising 33 or 77 utg 4xbb? And do u mean push over his initial bet of 3?
You never posted any reads, so it isnt out of the question, I personally would raise them UTG and make my standard raise. And given the stack sizes i think it is hard to play this hand, if Im raising Im going to be calling a push, so a push wouldnt be horrible. You cant fold this hand here so your options are between raise and call. If you call and the turn is a blank and villain leads it will be tough to know where you are at in the hand. If you call and hit a Q or a diamond you are probably getting another bet out of a worse hand that may fold to a raise/push on the flop. Im not great in these situations and my play depends a lot on my reads. If he is a loose player then combine that with the fact that he is a shortstack and he will be calling a push with a lot of worse hands on that flop. If he is tighter then seeing a turn may not be bad, but against, Im not great at these situations so I hope some other people give some input. The only advice I am 100% sure of is that you should reload to a full stack preflop.
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:56 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I don't mind the call preflop. It helps to have a read. If I know his PFR is less than 6% or so, then I am folding preflop.


Postflop is standard. He could have AJ- and be drawing practically dead. He could have AK and you'd be flipping. Plus with your short stack and the dead money, you can call this with a flush draw even if he shows you AAA before you decide.
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:53 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Preflop:I usually don' t like calling preflop raises with AQs(I like AKs or AKo and most of the time I reraise those).
Luckily you hit a decent flop;unfortunatly you were way behind and lost the race.

And make sure you have 100BB before each hand;65BB isn't really the best way to maximize the wins on your good hands.

Flop:I like an all in being the stack size you were.

Use the hand converter.....is it still down?
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