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likeafish
Old 01-03-2009, 05:50 PM     Post subject: Any way to get away from this?? #1 (permalink)  

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So this guys been playing pretty tight and 3 bets me pre flop. Checks the flop then I go in on turn when Q hits. Better way to play this hand?

PokerStars Game #23531748844: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/01/03 13:40:03 ET
Table 'Haidea III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: atateconst ($11.25 in chips)
Seat 3: LikeaFish ($18.65 in chips)
Seat 4: Zystro ($23.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Oblivion888 ($20.10 in chips)
Seat 6: yaniyoux ($9.45 in chips)
yaniyoux: posts small blind $0.05
atateconst: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LikeaFish [Qs Qc]
LikeaFish: raises $0.30 to $0.40
Zystro: folds
Oblivion888: raises $0.90 to $1.30
yaniyoux: folds
XDocker joins the table at seat #2
atateconst: folds
LikeaFish: calls $0.90
*** FLOP *** [Ad Ac Th]
LikeaFish: checks
Oblivion888: checks
*** TURN *** [Ad Ac Th] [Qh]
LikeaFish: bets $1
Oblivion888: raises $1 to $2
LikeaFish: raises $2 to $4
Oblivion888: raises $5 to $9
LikeaFish: raises $8.35 to $17.35 and is all-in
Oblivion888 said, "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
Oblivion888: calls $8.35
*** RIVER *** [Ad Ac Th Qh] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LikeaFish: shows [Qs Qc] (a full house, Queens full of Aces)
Oblivion888: shows [As Ah] (four of a kind, Aces)
Oblivion888 collected $35.60 from pot
LikeaFish said, "nice"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $37.45 | Rake $1.85
Board [Ad Ac Th Qh 2c]
Seat 1: atateconst (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: LikeaFish showed [Qs Qc] and lost with a full house, Queens full of Aces
Seat 4: Zystro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Oblivion888 (button) showed [As Ah] and won ($35.60) with four of a kind, Aces
Seat 6: yaniyoux (small blind) folded before Flop
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:48 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I posted a similar hand in full ring a few days ago. This one you definitely have to go broke with though, he has AK more often here than anything else.
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:42 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I posted a similar hand in full ring a few days ago. This one you definitely have to go broke with though, he has AK more often here than anything else.
Although it's likely best to 4b/call or fold preflop. But as played you need to get your money in on this turn.
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:44 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:10 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I find it strange to think villain would minbet the turn twice with AK. There's still hands that beat his and a few draws out there that he's giving value to.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:18 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 I wouldn't slow play Q's when an A's comes on the flop. I would have come out hard after the flop then checked it down after that.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:30 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't slow play Q's when an A's comes on the flop. I would have come out hard after the flop then checked it down after that.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:40 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't slow play Q's when an A's comes on the flop. I would have come out hard after the flop then checked it down after that.
Donking QQ on this flop is bad. Tell me why?
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:50 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 He either has AK or AA. He has one of those more often than the other. We beat the one he has more often.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:10 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Yes because he CLEARLY never has TT.

Looks like *everyone* is results oriented lol
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:33 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:44 AM #12 (permalink)  
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Yes because he CLEARLY never has TT.

Looks like *everyone* is results oriented lol
verrrrrrrrrrrrrry unlikely imo. but that's basing my thoughts on assumptions sooooo yeah
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Old 01-04-2009, 02:28 AM #14 (permalink)  
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It's an easy call with your boat. It just sucks that you were up against AA.
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Old 01-04-2009, 02:56 AM #15 (permalink)  
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:02 PM #16 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't slow play Q's when an A's comes on the flop. I would have come out hard after the flop then checked it down after that.
Donking QQ on this flop is bad. Tell me why?
By betting you'll push out worse hands that will call a bet on later streets, and it puts you in an awkward situation for the rest of the hand if he calls/raises you.

It's one of those ''your either way ahead or way behind situations'' so if they are behind..i.e JJ, they are drawing pretty slim so you can afford to give a free card.

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Old 01-04-2009, 03:38 PM #17 (permalink)  
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Old 01-04-2009, 04:10 PM #18 (permalink)  

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I think that you did everything fine. There are just times when you get beat for no good reason. This is one of them. Just be thankful you didn't have more money to lose!
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 Likeafish, welcome to FTR. This hand is fairly standard. Before the flop you could certainly have re-raised or called, our hand is definitely too strong to fold. The flop check is good, I'm assuming you were going to check and then fold to a bet, which is certainly fine although calling one bet would not be a bad way to play the hand either.

On the turn you have the 3rd best hand possible, just behind AA and AQ. It is likely our opponent might play AK or another Ax hand this way (AJs maybe) as well as pocket Tens. The best way to proceed on the turn is to maximize the value we get out of those hands. Therefore getting the money in on the turn is certainly fine.

Keep posting HH's and comment in other threads to see if you're thinking like some of our more experienced members.
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:49 PM #20 (permalink)  
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Oblivion888 said, "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
Oblivion888: calls $8.35
LOL. Pwned by the nuts. And you're deep against a guy who has you covered. ouch.
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