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finky
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11-06-2005, 11:12 AM
Post subject: Another Cowboy Conundrum
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London
Posts: 270
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Played this hand a while ago, still keeps me awake at night...
Pacific Poker NL100, full ring
Hero is MP +1 (~$120)
Villian 1 Button ($100)
Just sat down
Villian 2 BB (~$150)
Very aggressive, serial semibluffer.
Hero is dealt  
Folded round, hero raises to $4, both villians call.
Flop   
Villian bets $10, 80% certain he's on a flush draw and wants to end it now.
Hero raises to $30,
Villian 1 calls (?)
Villian 2 moves all in,
Hero ???
I'm still fairly sure villian 2's on a draw and i'm going to call but i'm thinking what could make villan 1 smooth call a pot sized bet and large re-raise. Worse case scenario villian 1 has got trips/AA villian 2 is on the draw and i'm drawing to just one out, but Pacific has more then it's fair share of fishy calling stations and there is a slim chance they could both be on the same draw making me a massive favourite. If villian 1 calls as well i'm getting big odds here (almost 4:1?)
hmmmm
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aislephive
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2005
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I doubt AA is out there because they most likely would have reraised you. It looks like at least one of them has trips, because it's very likely they called your PF raise with a medium pair and hit. It's a tough laydown, but I think you've got to lay it down. You might be drawing dead to two outs. Even if they're on a draw they'll hit it one time in three, so even if you happen to be ahead a lot of cards could change that. One of them might have something like a pair of tens and sees all the low cards and pushes. I don't know, either way it's a tough situation.
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
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im pushing
ill pay the set here, but smooth call could just be top pair. DOubt its AA
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UG
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Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,855
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It sucks but you have to fold this. Looks like you're up against a flush draw and a set here. You're ahead of the flush draw but you're behind the set. You really only have one out, too, becuase the king of spades will give your opp a flushie...I say fold.
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aislephive
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Downswinging holla!
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There ought to be a forum on pocket kings.
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Humphrind
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kansas City
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
oh god not another KK thread (sigh)
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Hey Ripp. You hold KK, what are the odds the flop brings an Ace?
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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midas06
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NZ
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every time
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finky
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London
Posts: 270
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Well I folded, Villian 1 Called, turn x, river Q. Villian 1 shows Ks Qs Wins ~$230 with a pair of queens.
I know I shouldent be results orientated but 
Sorry for another KK thread but i needed help.
As a side note I know a lot of players (myself included) will not always re-raise with AA especially if you have position and are likely to be heads up anyway. The original raiser's continuation bet will make up for the few BBs lost pre-flop and you have the option of trapping if you think he's hit TPTK.
Just my thoughts.
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