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wellrounded08
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08-31-2008, 03:27 PM
Post subject: Annoying people at the micro's
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Because they suck.
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Because they suck.
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I raise minbets on any street if I have middle pair or better, unless villain has shown a tendency to take weird min-bet, min-bet, shove lines with his bluffs in which case I'm calling to try and catch a huge river bluff.
I think the best approach is to come up with a rough approximation of the hands he's willing to minbet postflop, and if he's not running weird multistreet bluffs with odd betsizing on all streets, just keep raising when you're ahead of his minbet range, and fold to pressure if you have a weak one-pair hand.
96% of the time a min-bet is a blocking bet, not some trappy "please raise me!!" bet. The purpose of a blocking bet is what: To get you to call or fold.
What does villain not want us to do the overwhelming majority of the time? Raise. So what is the correct action when donkfish minbets into us, raise! Always strive to make the action that our opponent does not want us to make, because you're either:
1. Denying him/her value when you're beat by folding to bets they want you to calll.
2. Increasing the value of your made hands and bluffs by raising in situations where villain isn't going to exactly be thrilled about putting more chips in (based on board texture)
3. When he wants you to check or call and you bet or raise, you set yourself up to extract value from marginal middling pairs that villain wants to showdown, but not play a big pot with.
Just remember, in general, attacking weakness is a very rarely if ever wrong in NLHE.
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littleogre
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whats up with people that take the entire clock on every street of every hand. I hate people like that.
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Originally Posted by overflow
I raise minbets on any street if I have middle pair or better, unless villain has shown a tendency to take weird min-bet, min-bet, shove lines with his bluffs in which case I'm calling to try and catch a huge river bluff.
I think the best approach is to come up with a rough approximation of the hands he's willing to minbet postflop, and if he's not running weird multistreet bluffs with odd betsizing on all streets, just keep raising when you're ahead of his minbet range, and fold to pressure if you have a weak one-pair hand.
96% of the time a min-bet is a blocking bet, not some trappy "please raise me!!" bet. The purpose of a blocking bet is what: To get you to call or fold.
What does villain not want us to do the overwhelming majority of the time? Raise. So what is the correct action when donkfish minbets into us, raise! Always strive to make the action that our opponent does not want us to make, because you're either:
1. Denying him/her value when you're beat by folding to bets they want you to calll.
2. Increasing the value of your made hands and bluffs by raising in situations where villain isn't going to exactly be thrilled about putting more chips in (based on board texture)
3. When he wants you to check or call and you bet or raise, you set yourself up to extract value from marginal middling pairs that villain wants to showdown, but not play a big pot with.
Just remember, in general, attacking weakness is a very rarely if ever wrong in NLHE.
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raise,raise ,raise
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bjsaust
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09-01-2008, 12:38 AM
Post subject: Re: Annoying people at the micro's
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Originally Posted by wellrounded08
1.)Min betting constantly? Quit with your bitch "Feelers" It's just annoying
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Annoying as it is, its not as dumb as it looks (although it feels like it). If you have say a $5 pot at 50nl and donk out a min-bet, you only need the other person to fold 1 in 10 times and its a profitable play.
Doubt they've thought it through, they probably just think "uhhh I bet and sometimes they fold heheheh", but it actually has some validity.
I raise with 100% of my range.
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Jack Sawyer
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LOL, everybody should play perfectly at the micros
forget the micros, everybody should play perfectly at every level
i'm sure poker would be soo much more profitable then
i would be sooo happy, and definitely not "annoyed"
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wellrounded08
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Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
LOL, everybody should play perfectly at the micros
forget the micros, everybody should play perfectly at every level
i'm sure poker would be soo much more profitable then
i would be sooo happy, and definitely not "annoyed"
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Sir. That is absolutely correct. I"m going to shut the hell up bitching and play. I hate that I even made this thread, it is obsurd.
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Originally Posted by wellrounded08
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Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
LOL, everybody should play perfectly at the micros
forget the micros, everybody should play perfectly at every level
i'm sure poker would be soo much more profitable then
i would be sooo happy, and definitely not "annoyed"
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Sir. That is absolutely correct. I"m going to shut the hell up bitching and play. I hate that I even made this thread, it is obsurd. |
If more people had this line of thought before they made retarded posts and instead used that time to study then they'd get better faster fwiw.
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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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