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Old 12-28-2004, 01:50 PM     Post subject: Analysis? #1 (permalink)  
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$25 PL Hold'em - Tuesday, December 28, 09:23:55 EDT 2004
Table Dances with Wolves (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: lordeeme ( $38.65 )
Seat 6: mcronda ( $106.05 )
Seat 8: Grien ( $116.61 )
Seat 10: stressball10 ( $35.42 )
Seat 9: luvpoker27 ( $23.5 )
Seat 1: TM510TP ( $31.7 )
Seat 5: mjcliff ( $23.8 )
Seat 4: TakeItDown1X ( $24.75 )
Seat 7: frogtart ( $24.5 )
TakeItDown1X posts small blind [$0.25].
mjcliff posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to stressball10 [ 9s Qs ]
mcronda folds.
frogtart calls [$0.5].
Grien folds.
luvpoker27 calls [$0.5].
stressball10 calls [$0.5].
TM510TP calls [$0.5].
lordeeme folds.
TakeItDown1X calls [$0.25].
mjcliff checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 9h, 5c ]
TakeItDown1X checks.
mjcliff checks.
frogtart checks.
luvpoker27 checks.
stressball10 bets [$1].
TM510TP calls [$1].
TakeItDown1X raises [$2].
mjcliff calls [$2].
frogtart calls [$2].
luvpoker27 folds.
stressball10 calls [$1].
TM510TP calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
TakeItDown1X bets [$5].
mjcliff raises [$10].
frogtart folds.
stressball10 calls [$10].
TM510TP folds.
TakeItDown1X is all-In [$17.25]
mjcliff is all-In [$11.3]
stressball10 calls [$12.25].
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
mjcliff shows [ 8d, 7d ] a straight, five to nine.
stressball10 shows [ 9s, Qs ] a flush, king high.
TakeItDown1X doesn't show [ Kh, 9c ] two pairs, kings and nines.
stressball10 wins $1.9 from side pot #1 with a flush, king high.
stressball10 wins $73.9 from the main pot with a flush, king high.

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I'm obviously happy with the outcome but curious about what others might have done. Limped in Q9 suited at a table full of calling stations - that I'm fine with. Thought about folding to the cute little check-raise on the flop but the raise wasn't significant, and I ended up calling less than pot size to stay in with my middle pair and backdoor flush draw. Turn gave me the legit flush draw which I liked... didn't notice the straight or I might have folded there, because I was thinking I still had three queens and two nines as outs. (From all the limping I had guessed I was up against a top pair/decent kicker, or low two pair, or both.) Questionable call of the $10 bet on the turn, but it was less than pot-sized and I felt it was guaranteed the other player in was going to call as well, giving me even better pot odds. When he raised it going all-in I felt at that point there was no getting away from the hand, and I really needed one of my outs to land - specifically the flush outs, if at all possible (which was right on the money, considering what it turned out they had).

Comments? Too fishy calling those raises on the turn? I suspect I maybe should have folded to the $10 one... calling that was what made me call the all-in. If there had been a straight-up $22.50 bet to start the turn I would have folded like a cheap umbrella. Maybe I should have guessed (with the way betting goes on low buy-in Party tables) that it was going to turn into a raise-war very quickly.
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Old 12-28-2004, 02:21 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Well you did get 2 all-ins out of that and won the pot.

I thought this was well played. 4 cards to a flush draw. You bet first yes got raised but what is another $1 to your initial raise? If someone is going to check raise to try to drive someone out raise it higher than min. bet.

The turn made someones straight / flush. On the Ace was going to beat you on the flush. I would have felt very comfy with myself thinking I had the best hand.


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Old 12-28-2004, 02:45 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I think it's a fold to the 10 bucks, you're getting 3:1ish (i think) and you've pot commited yourself. You made a bad call to set up an ok call when it was re-raised allin.

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Old 12-28-2004, 02:55 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I think it's a fold to the 10 bucks, you're getting 3:1ish (i think) and you've pot commited yourself. You made a bad call to set up an ok call when it was re-raised allin.

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That sounds right to me too. I didn't calculate it accurately at the time, but it looks like it was a $10 call against a $28 pot (soon to be $33 when the other player called the $5 raise, although he actually raised all-in at that point instead of just calling). Like I said, I like the outcome, but I got the "made a bad call" guilts after the fact.
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Old 12-28-2004, 10:55 PM #5 (permalink)  
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If I were in the same situation, I may well have folded the turn.

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Old 12-29-2004, 01:20 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Dale, I think your analysis is correct...you should have folded to the bet and raise on the turn.
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Old 12-29-2004, 07:03 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Most likely folding the turn here...
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