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SinkRox
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05-31-2006, 03:06 PM
Post subject: Am I raising too much pre-flop?
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Brighton, UK
Posts: 624
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Im adapting to a new style from my old 13/4 nitty way..I play at pokerroom Full Ring $100nl and now run at 16-18 vpip and 10% PFR. Is this raising a bit too much preflop? It is 10 handed. I dont have set hands with postions that I raise, if ive raised lots lately I may chuck AT in EP but ive ive been very quiet I may raise with KJ UTG or AT MP or 75s or J9s from MP- LP etc.
Problem is this new style is so FUN I find it quite irresistable now and would find it hard to slow down and not raise so much pf.
Pros:
Fun
Makes me less predictable
Gets me used to playing bigger pots
Gives me more experience and confidence
Will help me in the near future when I move over to 5max
Cons:
May be a bit more swingy
Not sure how spewy it is
Not sure how profitable this style is as Ive only played about 5k hands like it. Thoughts please?
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
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i have higher vpip and pfr than you for 10 handed
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Rondavu
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
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It's all about postflop anyway. I have been known to raise 30% at 6max.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
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i only use a higher than average vpip/pfr to create deception so that my play is not predicatble. If your playing with players who will pay a tAGGY style, dont change it imo.
Otherwise, i use it to create deception and to get players to play back at me or overvalue more marginal hands (like tpgk) against me so that i encourage them to play big pots with me when i can beat their range.
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Rondavu
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
If your playing with players who will pay a tAGGY style, dont change it imo. Otherwise, i use it to create deception and to get players to play back at me or overvalue more marginal hands (like tpgk) against me so that i encourage them to play big pots with me when i can beat their range.
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I agree to a certain extent, but one shouldn't ignore potential for maximum tilt under many circumstances.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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stuck
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 586
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Like said before, your stats are fine. You could probably raise more in position (with any two, really, depending on the blinds). If they all fold, show. If one calls, c-bet, if they fold, show. It can do wonders for getting you more action later (assuming they're paying attention and not just playing their cards).
I'm running something like 22/12 at full ring BTW. There's no such thing as raising too much! (So long as you're smart about it). Also: Try re-raising sometime with rags (Repping AA/KK). Show if they fold. Definately a +EV move.
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