Originally Posted by iopq

hand 3 - bad beats are bad (this is not a cooler, but a bad beat)

Originally Posted by Dash

Hand #3: I get really scared when a 1-tone flop hits. Even with only one opponent left in the hand, as soon as another club hits I'm looking for the exit. (Thinking out loud here) I guess a made hand could represent a higher flush by shoving in a situation like this. It's just too bad he had the nuts.

Our 2/3 -3/4 pot-sized bets should normally price out most draws but could a shove here on the flop be the best move? I'm pretty sure I would have folded AA (except the club) with an AI bet on that board.

Originally Posted by bjsaust

I dont see a single read in the entire bunch of hands. Pointless thread.

Originally Posted by T-Rex

i really dont understand how reads mean soo much here.....he has KK pretty simple situations....... plz do explain cuzz u have me totally dumbfounded.

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

because he likely has a club and they always hit.

Originally Posted by surviva316

his intention wasn't to bluff here nor should it have been. we have equity here REGARDLESS of whether he has the nut flush or not. he's drawing to the unbeatable nuts (barring the one in a million that he has a set and hits his one-outter quad). explain to me why we're trying to push AA off the hand?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Hand 1 - check behind flop.. He has a set here 100% of the time. Fold to the first sign of aggression.

Hand 2 - KK < AA obv. Either learn to fold to 3bets, or just don't open KK at all.

Hand 3 - Meh.. I don't think you played this hand terribly. However, I would be tempted to fold when he shoves the flop because he likely has a club and they always hit.

Hand 4 - Why are you 3betting here... He has AA like everytime when he opens in this spot. Call and sethunt dummy.

Thought for the day: KK is a shitty hand really. If you notice the frequency with which you get KK all in preflop and lose to AA is multitudes higher than the frequency with which 72o loses to AA ai-preflop.

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

you should always play KK the same way so you're extremely exploitable, apparently

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

hush...

We know that's not true. Whether people stated that or not, they will understand that is absolutely ridiculous.

However, I wouldn't worry about being exploited at the microstakes, or the low stakes, or even midstakes for that matter.

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Sure.. Sometimes your hand range is going to be pretty obvious. And to decent hand readers unless your taking -EV plays, then you likely can't avoid all the spots. However, it doesn't mean they are profitable exploiting you. Example:

Villain raises preflop, and I call with TT IP. Flop is J73tt. Villain cbets and I call. Turn is a blank, and villain checks. I don't really think betting this turn has much value, as I would expect villain to maybe two-barrel his flush draws, and I don't expect him to check/call too many worse hands. And I do beat the majority of villains hands at this time, so I decide to check behind. Sure my hand range has become pretty obvious now. I wouldn't have checked behind with any of my nut hands {sets, overpairs, TPTK, etc} and likely not many of my bluffs {floats}. So my hand in many cases is going to be a marginal made hand with showdown value. However, just because this is obvious, doesn't mean on the river I'm going to be really getting exploited. Villain doesn't know if I"m folding those hands to a river bet, or calling. He doesn't know if there are other hands in my range, like draws, etc. Against me, in particular, villain should probably be betting this river with a very high frequency, because I tend to fold to a river bet here because it seems it's usually for value. However, the majority of villains aren't betting with the appropriate frequency, and therefore my weak range that I tend to fold here, isn't being exploited all that much, if at all. Also, if we notice that villain is trying to exploit us and is betting the river here with a very high frequency, we only need to make a small adjustment and we are now re-exploiting him. That adjustment is obviously to begin calling more.

Anyways, just my thoughts. Also, I think the turn decision could be up for some debate also. Betting has a fair amount of merit to it also, and may even be best.

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Well technically we are "re-exploiting" him (for the lack of a better term). At that point when we realize he is betting the river with a high frequency to take advantage of our "weak" range, and our tendency to fold in that spot, and to combat that we begin calling with a wider range, then we have made an adjustment to his new tendency. Obviously he can, and should, re-adjust and start betting a wider range for value, and stop bluffing as often; however, until he makes that adjustment we are now exploiting his tendency/frequency.