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Old 08-13-2009, 05:46 AM     Post subject: Am I functionally retarded? #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 38/13. I have A8 in the bb and flop top pair on a dangerous board. Am I retarded to lay this down?

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Hero (BB) ($24.55)
UTG ($69.22)
UTG+1 ($5)
MP1 ($50.32)
MP2 ($10.09)
MP3 ($5)
CO ($25.39)
Button ($17.65)
SB ($24.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, A
UTG calls $0.25, 5 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1) 6, 8, 5 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1, Button raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero folds, UTG calls $2

Turn: ($8) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $3.50, Button calls $3.50

River: ($15) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $4.50, 1 fold

Total pot: $15 | Rake: $0.75

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Old 08-13-2009, 07:22 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:34 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Standard since your'e not closing the action...plus since there's like like 56 turn cards you don't want to see, it kinda makes 1 pair multiway on a wet flop suck a fat one against even an optimistic range.
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:36 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 is this one of those spots where even if we're slightly ahead of villains range we have to fold anyway?
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:46 AM     Post subject: Re: Am I functionally retarded? #5 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by dontezuma
Villain is 38/13. I have A8 in the bb and flop top pair on a dangerous board. Am I retarded to lay this down?

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Hero (BB) ($24.55)
UTG ($69.22)
UTG+1 ($5)
MP1 ($50.32)
MP2 ($10.09)
MP3 ($5)
CO ($25.39)
Button ($17.65)
SB ($24.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, A
UTG calls $0.25, 5 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1) 6, 8, 5 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1, Button raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero folds
fyp.

and i agree with op. you're oop and gonna be in some shitty spots even if you end up just going against the button. If utg calls as well, then almost every turn card sucks balls and we get put in even shitier spots.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:00 AM #6 (permalink)  
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is this one of those spots where even if we're slightly ahead of villains range we have to fold anyway?
It just seems like (if button is decent), we're going to be c/fing like every turn except for an A or 8 or 2, so unless we run out a boat or some shit we're burning money when we call to fold the next street.

Nobody hates folding worse than me (you can't win money when you fold, all you can do is lose it-OP thereom) and top top is generally the nuts for me but this seems like a pretty good spot to say fuck it and chuck it. Write that down.
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:34 AM #7 (permalink)  
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we're going to be c/fing like every turn except for an A or 8 or 2

what about a 3
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:16 PM #9 (permalink)  
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is this one of those spots where even if we're slightly ahead of villains range we have to fold anyway?
Yes, reverse implied odds, etc.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:24 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:47 PM #11 (permalink)  
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