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johnnyBuz
Old 08-30-2006, 07:09 AM     Post subject: Is this an always-fold? #1 (permalink)  
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Would most likely turn into a heads up battle if I call.

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$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, August 30, 03:08:48 ET 2006
Table No Maximum (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: hcnup_yeknod ( $25.55 )
Seat 2: getmoney111 ( $30.75 )
Seat 3: OldFlower ( $36.65 )
Seat 4: Kalamas ( $14.75 )
Seat 5: jpt75 ( $24.75 )
Seat 6: aftrskolspcl ( $37.75 )
Seat 7: outlong ( $5.15 )
Seat 8: s1Lv1a ( $35.28 )
Seat 9: emilypoker2 ( $25.60 )
Seat 10: johnnyBuz ( $24.75 )
Kalamas posts small blind [$0.10].
jpt75 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to johnnyBuz [ 9c Ac ]
aftrskolspcl raises [$1.50].
outlong folds.
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s1Lv1a folds.
emilypoker2 folds.
johnnyBuz folds.
hcnup_yeknod folds.
getmoney111 folds.
OldFlower folds.
Kalamas folds.
jpt75 folds.
aftrskolspcl does not show cards.
aftrskolspcl wins $1.85
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Old 08-30-2006, 07:35 AM #2 (permalink)  
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What do you hope he has, A8? Fold that shite!
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Old 08-30-2006, 07:46 AM #3 (permalink)  
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What do you hope he has, A8? Fold that shite!
Well I meant I know I'm dominated, but does it ever warrant a call searching for 2pair / draw?
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Old 08-30-2006, 08:17 AM #4 (permalink)  

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Can't call hoping for a draw because you'll be OOP and unable to extract if you hit. And he's unlikely to give you odds to draw. If you're searching for 2pair/trips (not As!) you'd be better off with 72o because at least you know your outs are live.

Insta-fold.
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Old 08-30-2006, 09:12 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:49 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Nothing should automatically be an always-fold.

What do we know about the raiser?

Does he raise all sorts of shite from any position? Is this his first raise in 90 hands?

In the first case, A9zooted may be playable (or you can even repop if you're feeling your stones). However, you need a pretty decent read to do this sort of thing.

In absence of any other information and against an UTG raise, this is a fold. If we know that the raiser is stupidly loose, things can change.
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Old 08-30-2006, 06:15 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I would only call this raise if you had 2 or 3 other callers in with it. Then you can play for two pair/trips/FD.

Although if you were playing a 70/30 you could probably call or reraise.
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Old 08-31-2006, 11:09 PM #8 (permalink)  
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"Nothing should automatically be an always-fold"

Hero has 2c2s

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Always fold this one.
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:02 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I'll fold with no reads, but tend to call more often pending his raising habits. It all depends on everything.


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