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drtofu66
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04-21-2006, 03:55 AM
Post subject: AKs in SB-- what's your plan with this flop and action?
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 595
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AK in the SB.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP3 ($24.65)
CO ($22.98)
Button ($8.22)
Hero ($24.40)
BB ($7.31)
UTG ($23.25)
UTG+1 ($24.47)
UTG+2 ($30.23)
MP1 ($21.83)
MP2 ($30.70)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , K. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 4 folds, Button calls $0.25, Hero (poster) raises to $0.9, BB calls $0.75, UTG+2 calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75.
Flop: ($4) Q , 3, 7 (4 players)
Hero...
I'm not too crazy about a c-bet here into 2 calling stations and a LAG on the button with this board. Do you c-bet anyway and shut down if a non-heart falls (I'd do this if one of those diamonds were black)? Or check, call a small bet when it comes back/fold to a decent sized bet?
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yorib
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oak Park, IL
Posts: 281
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It depends what your tollerance for risk is. You can either check, denoting either tremendous strength or weakness and watch the hand get checked around, or toss out a $3 bet saying "I like my hand and want to deny any flush draws". If you bet $3 and either player has trips, they'll let you know. Even a LAG has to respect consistent strength. Especially when you can easily have QQQ.
Also calling stations don't call without some draw.
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drtofu66
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 595
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by yorib
It depends what your tollerance for risk is. You can either check, denoting either tremendous strength or weakness and watch the hand get checked around, or toss out a $3 bet saying "I like my hand and want to deny any flush draws". If you bet $3 and either player has trips, they'll let you know. Even a LAG has to respect consistent strength. Especially when you can easily have QQQ.
Also calling stations don't call without some draw.
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Good advice-- thanks. I elected to check and this was the action:
Hero checks, BB bets $0.25, UTG+2 calls $0.25, Button raises to $1, Hero...
Minbet by a fish and the LAG predictably raised but only to $1. I'm a little stuck by the weakish action-- I've gotten sandwiched between the minbettor and the LAG raiser before.
If I had this hand over, I think I'd stick in a real reraise to $2-3 here. I'll fold to a 4bet here or check/fold the turn if I don't get a heart or pair. Bad plan?
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DaNutsInYoEye
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: St. Louis
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You have ace high. Betting A high, with two of your outs likely tainted, into 3 opponents, in a raised pot, when you're out of position is generally pretty stupid.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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ekillian
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Straight
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 235
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I agree with DaNuts here. C-bets have their place. This isn't it.
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TLR
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Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 5,007
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You have no reason to call after a bet and a raise on the flop, someone has caught part of the flop and you are way behind
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biondino
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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This is a check/fold for me. The lack of position will almost certainly screw you; you're playing both calling stations and a LAgg, so if one doesn't beat you with his third pair, the other one will with his big river raise.
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Xanadu
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
Location: st. paul, MO
Posts: 966
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A general rule for continuation bets unimproved/with no draw, is to rarely do it with more than 2 opponents.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
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I raise bigger preflop (probably to 1.5) and if they still all call, then I checkfold this flop. Heads up this is an easy 3/4 pot c-bet.
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