AKo in the SB ( Not a good flop )

**Cobra_1878** · 08-05-2012 07:42 PM

This guy was impossible to get a read on. I only saw him play a few hands, in these hands he won massive pots of the same guy who was ridiculously bad at bluffing. Every time he won a hand like that, he sat out for quite some time before rejoining and repeating the process. The impression I got from him was he didn't play OOP and was generally TAG in his play.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($2.09)
Hero (SB) ($4.33)
BB ($6.29)
UTG ($5.20)
MP ($4.18)
CO ($3.18)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, K

4 folds, Hero bets $0.06, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.12) Q

, 10

, A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.07, BB raises to $0.26, Hero calls $0.19

Turn: ($0.64) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.22, Hero ???

I am stuck here. I hate that flop and always seem to find myself in these situations. Is he drawing? Does he have me beat?

**Shotglass** · 08-05-2012 07:47 PM

What did he show when he raked those big pots?

edit: bet bigger when bvb and opening from the sb...something like 4 - 5bb. it gives him worse odds to call

**OngBonga** · 08-05-2012 08:04 PM

His turn sizing makes me want to raise.

**Cobra_1878** · 08-05-2012 08:15 PM

He was pretty tight, I don't think he showed a card under 10? Minimum he went to showdown with was a straight.

**Shotglass** · 08-05-2012 09:28 PM

his turn sizing looks like a suck or blocker bet...I'm folding

**Imthenewfish** · 08-05-2012 09:29 PM

lol just get money in somehow if you don't 3b flop then raise turn. if you're not going to post better reads then you can't really expect better analysis

**Cobra_1878** · 08-05-2012 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Imthenewfish

lol just get money in somehow if you don't 3b flop then raise turn. if you're not going to post better reads then you can't really expect better analysis

What do you want me to post in my reads and I will try my best to make you happy.

3 bet that flop? Surely that is the wrong move with only TPTK considering his raise size?

**Imthenewfish** · 08-05-2012 09:51 PM

you've only seen him play a few hands so you're read shouldn't be that he's generally tag. what range do you think a random at 2nl raises flop with?

**Cobra_1878** · 08-05-2012 10:02 PM

It's a general assumption based on the few hands he had played.

I think it depends on their position.

**Shotglass** · 08-06-2012 03:24 AM

After reviewing this hand again, I'm with newfish and ong. OTT raise to about $1.10 and call a shove. Even blondes can be taught.

Still, raise bigger pf.

**rpm** · 08-06-2012 08:45 AM

i dont like 3betting flop this deep and i dont really like check/raising turn very much either. just because he bet small doesn't mean he continues vs a C/R with a weak range, and there are heaps of two pairs/straights he can show up with here.

**Cobra_1878** · 08-06-2012 10:33 AM

Turn: ($0.64) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.22, Hero calls $0.22

River: ($1.08) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Total pot: $1.68

He had flopped a straight, KJs.

08-05-2012 07:42 PM #1
Cobra_1878 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2012 Posts 669 Location Plymouth, England. Originally from Liverpool	AKo in the SB ( Not a good flop ) This guy was impossible to get a read on. I only saw him play a few hands, in these hands he won massive pots of the same guy who was ridiculously bad at bluffing. Every time he won a hand like that, he sat out for quite some time before rejoining and repeating the process. The impression I got from him was he didn't play OOP and was generally TAG in his play. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Button ($2.09) Hero (SB) ($4.33) BB ($6.29) UTG ($5.20) MP ($4.18) CO ($3.18) Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K 4 folds, Hero bets $0.06, BB calls $0.04 Flop: ($0.12) Q, 10, A (2 players) Hero bets $0.07, BB raises to $0.26, Hero calls $0.19 Turn: ($0.64) 9 (2 players) Hero checks, BB bets $0.22, Hero ??? I am stuck here. I hate that flop and always seem to find myself in these situations. Is he drawing? Does he have me beat?

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08-05-2012 07:47 PM #2
Shotglass View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2010 Posts 1,745 Location feelin' allright	What did he show when he raked those big pots? edit: bet bigger when bvb and opening from the sb...something like 4 - 5bb. it gives him worse odds to call
	Last edited by Shotglass; 08-05-2012 at 07:50 PM. Originally Posted by givememyleg i'll never understand how anyone can go through life being sober.
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08-05-2012 08:04 PM #3
OngBonga View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2010 Posts 5,371 Location England	His turn sizing makes me want to raise.
	Originally Posted by wufwugy ongies gonna ong
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08-05-2012 08:15 PM #4
Cobra_1878 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2012 Posts 669 Location Plymouth, England. Originally from Liverpool	He was pretty tight, I don't think he showed a card under 10? Minimum he went to showdown with was a straight.

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08-05-2012 09:28 PM #5
Shotglass View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2010 Posts 1,745 Location feelin' allright	his turn sizing looks like a suck or blocker bet...I'm folding
	Originally Posted by givememyleg i'll never understand how anyone can go through life being sober.
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08-05-2012 09:29 PM #6
Imthenewfish View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Apr 2010 Posts 1,107	lol just get money in somehow if you don't 3b flop then raise turn. if you're not going to post better reads then you can't really expect better analysis

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08-05-2012 09:36 PM #7
Cobra_1878 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2012 Posts 669 Location Plymouth, England. Originally from Liverpool	Originally Posted by Imthenewfish lol just get money in somehow if you don't 3b flop then raise turn. if you're not going to post better reads then you can't really expect better analysis What do you want me to post in my reads and I will try my best to make you happy. 3 bet that flop? Surely that is the wrong move with only TPTK considering his raise size?

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08-05-2012 09:51 PM #8
Imthenewfish View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Apr 2010 Posts 1,107	you've only seen him play a few hands so you're read shouldn't be that he's generally tag. what range do you think a random at 2nl raises flop with?

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08-05-2012 10:02 PM #9
Cobra_1878 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2012 Posts 669 Location Plymouth, England. Originally from Liverpool	It's a general assumption based on the few hands he had played. I think it depends on their position.

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08-06-2012 03:24 AM #10
Shotglass View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2010 Posts 1,745 Location feelin' allright	After reviewing this hand again, I'm with newfish and ong. OTT raise to about $1.10 and call a shove. Even blondes can be taught. Still, raise bigger pf.
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08-06-2012 08:45 AM #11
rpm View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2009 Posts 2,858 Location maaaaaaaaaaate	i dont like 3betting flop this deep and i dont really like check/raising turn very much either. just because he bet small doesn't mean he continues vs a C/R with a weak range, and there are heaps of two pairs/straights he can show up with here.

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08-06-2012 10:33 AM #12
Cobra_1878 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2012 Posts 669 Location Plymouth, England. Originally from Liverpool	Turn: ($0.64) 9 (2 players) Hero checks, BB bets $0.22, Hero calls $0.22 River: ($1.08) Q (2 players) Hero checks, BB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30 Total pot: $1.68 He had flopped a straight, KJs.

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