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!Luck

02-09-2010, 04:34 PM Post subject: AKo @ 25 NL - FR

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Villain is unknown.

Preflop calling range is 22-qq (will reraise kk+), AQo? is an unknown going to call AQo out of position against and EP raiser.

I feel like I have to make a lot of assumptions.

Flop against his preflop range I have massive equity 73%, however his continuing range rocks me AQ,aa,kk,Air.

Not sure I can check this flop though, so I have to bet BUT NOT commit yet.

The min reraise is confusing as I can't really call. So I should Reraise it to 10? and Fold to reraise? But that sounds stupid.

So all in all I am lost.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP3 ($25)
CO ($31.95)
Button ($35.70)
SB ($21.85)
BB ($23.45)
UTG ($26.90)
UTG+1 ($26.70)
MP1 ($13.75)
Hero (MP2) ($28.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A

, K

2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero bets $1, 4 folds, BB calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) 9

, Q

, A

(3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($11.10) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $18.45 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $11.10 | Rake: $0.50

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02-09-2010, 07:10 PM

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How loose is MP1? You should probably be 5-6xing and making a tonne post when he limp/calls. Folding is fine. If his range is any wider on the turn then AQ/99 it's probably going to still crush us since he'll have like KQ/QJ/AJss/ATss/QT/JT or w/e and we need to be good like 40%.

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02-09-2010, 07:16 PM

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Well you seem lost. You say his preflop range is 22-QQ and then you worry on the flop that he might have KK/AA.

A complete unknown probably has more hands in his range though - especially seeing as he called preflop expecting a multiway pot - lots of suited/connected/Axs type hands could justifiably be called if you expect a multiway pot as implied odds are better then. Similarly you can expect some calls from some hands that might otherwise 3bet if he wants to keep in the limper.

All that aside - the only thing that's really important is how this player uses min-raises. Or in this case a check/min-raise.

I think for sure when he min-raises you need to have your commitment plan and your commitment decision in order before you even call the min-raise. In other words at that time you are effectively risking $20.45 to win $27.55.

What I like to do is try to think about what my opponent is trying to accomplish with the line he is taking. Absent history I would not expect a min-raise to be a bluff, but consider it much more likely that it's a pot-sweetener - as if he is ready to commit and want to increase the amount of money you put in the middle before you inevitably fold to his aggression. With whiffed hands that I cbet with I insta-muck and some half-decent hands probably also - like JJ, KQ and maybe even AJ. I don't hate a flop fold if he is a complete unknown although it really is weak tight and horribly exploitable - but as long as you don't have a reason to think that he's min-raising crap it's not a bad move.

Probably the only hand in his range that you're not behind is a JT type hand - particularly JsTs if we consider the turn action. But the question is if he is capable of semi-bluff-raising. He might not be.

He is certainly representing a AA/AQ/QQ/99 range. It's pretty narrow - folding to a bet is certainly exploitable, but in the short term against an unknown I don't hate it.

rpm

02-09-2010, 10:25 PM

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1 combo of QQ (discounted imo because most people dont open jam turns with quads)
1 combo of AA (also discounted imo for the same reasons)
3 combos of 99 (his most likely holding here i think)
9? remaining combos of AK

pretty weird board for villain to have many bluffs in his range. especially versus a preflop raiser. i would call the flop because his betsizing sucks and he may be a fish with top pair. when he jams the turn i'm thinking its a pretty polar range - 99 or very occasionally some fish spazzing with air.

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02-09-2010, 10:27 PM

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forgot the 4 (is it?) combos of AQ which are also very likely:
turn range in my opinion:
AQ
99
not enough air to bother factoring it in to your equity

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02-10-2010, 03:04 AM

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I think he overbets the turn because he has close to the nuts on the turn but his hand is still vulnerable to a bad river. Like if he has AQ and you have Ax, the unlikely last A on the river would tie the pot, or if you have KK and the river is a K he is beat. If he has 99, and you have TT-KK, a T-K on the river beats him as well.

So as rpm said, 99 and AQ seem very likely here. If stuff like KQ was in his preflop range, that could be it as well.

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02-10-2010, 11:19 AM

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dranger7070 has a little shameless behaviour in the past

Other than PFR sizing, seems fine vs unknown.

!Luck

02-10-2010, 03:34 PM

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Yeah my normal raise would be 1.25, not sure why i didn't. Is that what you are referring to dranger

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02-10-2010, 04:08 PM

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Well, without being too results oriented, this looks like an okay spot to check behind. I could be wrong though, and I think you played it fine. I think a 3-bet on the flop would be bad, you can't expect worse to call.

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02-10-2010, 09:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by !Luck

Yeah my normal raise would be 1.25, not sure why i didn't. Is that what you are referring to dranger

Yup, and why the hell would we check this behind? Qx, TJ, Ax, GSSDs, etc are all calling our value bet on the flop. There is no point to checking this vs 2 players that aren't full stacked.

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