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Old 05-16-2006, 03:22 PM     Post subject: AK vs ???? #1 (permalink)  
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What do you think villian has? I had no reads on him...


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($37.55)
Button ($21.45)
SB ($22.55)
BB ($6.48)
UTG ($18.50)
UTG+1 ($25.65)
UTG+2 ($28.45)
MP1 ($4.80)
Hero ($28.48)
MP3 ($21.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.34, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.09, UTG+2 calls $1.09.

Flop: ($4.37) 3, 4, K (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $2.94, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $2.94.

Turn: ($10.25) 2 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $2.91, Hero raises to $7.29, UTG+2 calls $4.38.

River: ($24.83) K (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $16.88 (All-In), Hero calls $16.88.

Final Pot: $58.59
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Old 05-16-2006, 03:27 PM #2 (permalink)  
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If he's not a moron, he's got a set, rivered boat.
 
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Old 05-16-2006, 03:45 PM #3 (permalink)  
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44 would be my guess
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Old 05-16-2006, 03:45 PM #4 (permalink)  
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If he's not a moron, he's got a set, rivered boat.
and if he is a moron, A5
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:00 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Not sure what it could possibly be other than a boat. K4s? AK limped pre-flop (ugh)?

How did you get on with the $0.03 you had left?
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Old 05-16-2006, 08:46 PM #6 (permalink)  
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OK, let me tell you what I was thinking when I was betting (results are posted in white below also):

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($37.55)
Button ($21.45)
SB ($22.55)
BB ($6.48)
UTG ($18.50)
UTG+1 ($25.65)
UTG+2 ($28.45)
MP1 ($4.80)
Hero ($28.48)
MP3 ($21.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.34, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.09, UTG+2 calls $1.09.

Limp, Limp, raise, call call. Hmmm..must have either a low PP, A-rag or 2 cards T or higher.

Flop: ($4.37) 3, 4, K (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $2.94, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $2.94.

(OK, looks like I hit my flop, did they? I'll make it look like a c-bet and see what they do...they both checked so they got nothing or a monster, i.e. set).

Turn: ($10.25) 2 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $2.91, Hero raises to $7.29, UTG+2 calls $4.38.

(What's win the wimp bet? I think he has a draw or TPWK and is trying to price himself in...a set would have checked/raised on the flop and certainly would have bet bigger here so let's raise it up and see what he does)

River: ($24.83) K (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $16.88 (All-In), Hero calls $16.88.

(Ah, all-in. The bet of deperation or made hand? I say desperation or he has KQ, KJ or maybe KT sooted so I call).

Final Pot: $58.59

Results in white below:
UTG+2 has 7d 5d (one pair, kings).
Hero has Kc As (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $58.59.
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Old 05-16-2006, 08:57 PM #7 (permalink)  
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If he's not a moron, he's got a set, rivered boat.
Quite a read considering villain is an unknown party poker NL25 player.
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Old 05-16-2006, 09:23 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Giving 25nl players too much credit is probably one of the hugest value leaks (coming from the worst value bettor in history. ;/), maybe even worse than not giving them enough credit.
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:51 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Giving 25nl players too much credit is probably one of the hugest value leaks (coming from the worst value bettor in history. ;/), maybe even worse than not giving them enough credit.
Bingo. Exactly why I posted this hand...just wanted to point out that you cannot give $25NL players too much credit for a made hand when I see this ALL the time. Even donks have good hands too, but if the betting patterns don't add up or there is an obvious missed flush or str8 draw on the board, I call it down. So far so good...
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Old 05-17-2006, 12:39 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Raise more preflop;make it $1.50-$2 to go.

Flop bet more;make it $3.50 to $3.75 to go.If you really feel good make it $4.

Turn is either raise or push-how much does villain have left?In fact I may push this.If this were a rock or solid player I would be cautious but vs a clown he could easily be trying to price himself into a draw or who knows backdoor flush draw.

River is tough-either he trapped you with the wheel/boat or he trully did push a missed draw.If he had two pair on the flop(presuming he didn't fill up) you win.If he has a donk pair you win.
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