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himan
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06-23-2010, 07:37 PM
Post subject: AK three handed all-in preflop
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High Card
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Preflop: Hero is CO with  , 
3 folds, Hero bets $0.04, Button raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.07, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, Button raises to $1.20 (All-In), SB calls $0.60 (All-In), Hero ??
Is it still profitable to go all-in with AT when 2 players going all-in pre-flop?
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JR9477
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Age old question, do you have reads on the other players
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kfaess
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Why aren't you buying in full and raising more than the minimum?
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spoonitnow
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spoonitnow
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On second thought I'm going to unlock this and allow some multi-way all-in discussion.
I don't want to seem like I'm being a hard-ass over this, but pleeeeease post reads or stats or something about your opponents. If you don't have any reads then that's fine, but at least post that you don't have reads.
After you do that, put your opponents on a range (using your best guess with whatever information or lack thereof is available) and try to figure out what you should do based on that information.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Imthenewfish
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Against unkowns at 2nl this seems like a fairly standard call. Worse aces can be in their range, and we have equity against pocket pairs
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tomato paste carnage
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After the SB calls the 4bet you should consider folding.
Otherwise, without any reads, it's pretty standard at 2NL. You're getting called by worse often enough to make it profitable.
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himan
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High Card
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I had reads of just ordinary 2NL-players, not very tight not calling everything preflop
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spoonitnow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tomato paste carnage
After the SB calls the 4bet you should consider folding.
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How To: Analyze Calling An All-in
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Imthenewfish
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Calling .9 to win 1.8 so it's pretty easy call for 2nl
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Fnord
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tomato paste carnage
After the SB calls the 4bet you should consider folding.
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Why, he's a short stack at a penny no limit table. He's got crap here way too often that he doesn't give a shit enough about the money to fold.
I think the BN has you crushed here a lot, but sometimes you're good.
Why did you 4-bet here? Even if it's the best play, do you know why it is?
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Tasha
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The 4-bet is for value?
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Outlaw
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Very easy call... unless one of them has exactly AA, you have the right price. I have seen this spot 100 times at 2NL, they both flip over AQ and we rejoice.
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Imthenewfish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw
Very easy call... unless one of them has exactly AA, you have the right price. I have seen this spot 100 times at 2NL, they both flip over AQ and we rejoice.
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We don't have the right price if one of them has AK and the other has a pocket pair?? Thats what I would be worried about here right before they flip the cards over..
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Outlaw
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Its 2NL.. youll seriously see crap here a lot and one of them will have Ax a ton
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Imthenewfish
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Yeah I agree its an easy call, I was just pointing out a situation other than one of them having aces that would make this a fold if the cards were face-up
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