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villagenut
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05-09-2010, 08:41 PM
Post subject: AK in Small Blind
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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($1.95)
UTG+1 ($1.99)
MP1 ($0.70)
MP2 ($1.17)
MP3 ($2.40)
CO ($0.70)
Button ($1.36)
Hero (SB) ($2.10)
BB ($1.97)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K , A
5 folds, CO calls $0.02, Button bets $0.08, Hero raises to $0.14, 2 folds, Button calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.32) 7 , 5 , 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.24, Hero ??
Forgot to note the HUD stats for the villian but that is part of my question. What are you looking for in hud stats that would make you push over and what stats would make you fold?
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scfc_andy15
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I would make a larger 3 bet pre-flop as you are giving him a great price to call your 3 bet in position with whatever he has. So 3 bet to maybe $0.28.
In regard to HUD question its normally going to be what there aggresion factor is post flop aswell as hand selection pre-flop as to whether you think your A high is good here. Maybe a 10/8 with 1.5 Ag factor I would fold as there range normally has you beat here whereas a 30/20 donk with a high Ag factor has a lot more garbage is his range which you have beat.
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rong
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Full House
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As played, just fold.
You should have 3bet bigger & then cbet the flop.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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Imthenewfish
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Whats up with less than 2x 3bet playing OOP??
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Santo2True
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looks like a decent flop for a cbet to me. if he raises you can fold safely.
But as many have said, 3bet larger when you have a good hand especially with so many people to follow.
when he's raising preflop you want to look at the second number in the HUD and see what percent of his hands he is raising with. If the number is rather high you can assume you are way ahead of his range with AKo. You will also want to look at the stats of your opponents that are behind you so you know how tight/loose they are and bet appropriately since your main goal here would probably be to iso the original raiser.
your hand will play better heads up and then it's just a matter of showing some aggression on the flop most of the time. If their cbet on flop rate is pretty high you can assume most of the time you are still ahead of his range. Also I have on mine "fold after cbetting" flop %. I think this is a great stat to know preflop and postflop. See who's floating and what not
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"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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Keith
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imthenewfish
Whats up with less than 2x 3bet playing OOP??
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anyone raising is going to have PPs in their range, by less than 2x 3 betting it costs them bugger all to call and set mine you , you are also making it more attractive for the BB to 4bet you or call with crap and hope to hit 2 pair or better
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EasyPoker
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fold
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[20:19] <Zill4> god
[20:19] <Zill4> u guys
[20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
[20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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Imthenewfish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_MM
anyone raising is going to have PPs in their range, by less than 2x 3 betting it costs them bugger all to call and set mine you , you are also making it more attractive for the BB to 4bet you or call with crap and hope to hit 2 pair or better
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Okay.. I don't really understand how 3 betting LESS than a standard 3 bet amount makes pocket pairs pay MORE to set mine. If BB just flats you create a multiway pot OOP with a TPTK type of hand. Weak aces are often in opening ranges at these limits, so I don't see why you wouldn't raise more preflop to make them pay to hit their 3 outer. You'll make a lot when you have a better kicker than them, but the A, (or K if he's opening really weak hands) will not flop very often because there will be only 2 left in the deck. Okay, if you want the BB to call it and try to hit 2 pair, don't you realize that if they hit ONE pair their hand will usually be ahead of yours? If you want to play a passive preflop game and just value bet your hands after you hit them, why are you advocating raising less instead of just calling? Does raising really make the BB more likely to raise than if you just called? Sorry that I don't understand why 3 betting less than 2x his raise is the correct play.
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eugmac
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imthenewfish
Okay.. I don't really understand how 3 betting LESS than a standard 3 bet amount makes pocket pairs pay MORE to set mine. If BB just flats you create a multiway pot OOP with a TPTK type of hand. Weak aces are often in opening ranges at these limits, so I don't see why you wouldn't raise more preflop to make them pay to hit their 3 outer. You'll make a lot when you have a better kicker than them, but the A, (or K if he's opening really weak hands) will not flop very often because there will be only 2 left in the deck. Okay, if you want the BB to call it and try to hit 2 pair, don't you realize that if they hit ONE pair their hand will usually be ahead of yours? If you want to play a passive preflop game and just value bet your hands after you hit them, why are you advocating raising less instead of just calling? Does raising really make the BB more likely to raise than if you just called? Sorry that I don't understand why 3 betting less than 2x his raise is the correct play.
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Bugger all = hardly anything at all
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Santo2True
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i think he was saying to raise more, but that's just the way i read it
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"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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ljove
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3bet preflop and raise his flop bet.
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Santo2True
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why would he check/raise the flop? just curious what your thinking is behind it
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"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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texa8
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preflop 3 bet needs to be $0.25 at least imo being OOP
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jaytoi
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Lol i think Imthnewfish and Keith_MM agree but dont realise it?
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Im ready this time.
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texa8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaytoi
Lol i think Imthnewfish and Keith_MM agree but dont realise it?
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CONFIRM... 
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Imthenewfish
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Probably.
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