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Old 04-17-2006, 06:26 PM     Post subject: AK gives two pair. #1 (permalink)  
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Okay, I'll post this for comments first, so I won't say anything that will give something way.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($3.72)
UTG+1 ($4.36)
Hero ($9.73)
MP2 ($4.88)
MP3 ($6.34)
CO ($5.43)
Button ($7.27)
SB ($4.76)
BB ($6.21)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, K. SB posts a blind of $0.02.
UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.3, 3 folds, Button calls $0.30, 2 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($0.74) A, T, K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.5, Button calls $0.50.

Turn: ($1.74) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button calls $1.

River: ($3.74) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $3.74
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Old 04-17-2006, 06:47 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I'd probably put in a small value bet on the river. Another 1.00 should do it. Looks good to me though.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:13 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I'd probably put in a small value bet on the river. Another 1.00 should do it. Looks good to me though.
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Old 04-17-2006, 11:14 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I'd bet at least £1.50 on the river and assume I'm up against AQ/J/T. Less and the villain might sense weakness and raise for the sake of it, putting me in a difficult position; more and I'd expect either a fold or the re-raise.

Were you intending to check-raise here?
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Old 04-17-2006, 11:30 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I'd bet at least £1.50 on the river and assume I'm up against AQ/J/T. Less and the villain might sense weakness and raise for the sake of it, putting me in a difficult position; more and I'd expect either a fold or the re-raise.

Were you intending to check-raise here?
Nope. I just lost my bottle.

I mean I just have no sense of what's going on with these guys some times.
I mean with what he's bet he could equally well be on AA or rags.

I'd lost a couple of pots like this in the session where two pair were beaten by trips, so I just checked.

He had A5 diamonds. I mean who calls pre-flop with that? Who then calls the flop and the turn with that?

So yeah, should have bet... must stop showing these guys this sort of respect.
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Old 04-17-2006, 11:34 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I'd lost a couple of pots like this in the session where two pair were beaten by trips, so I just checked.
Trips are going to bet anyway if you check, and presumably you are going to call so why not stick in a bet that worse hands can call too?

I really really reeeaaaaally hope you werent planning to check/fold.
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Old 04-18-2006, 06:09 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I'd lost a couple of pots like this in the session where two pair were beaten by trips, so I just checked.
Trips are going to bet anyway if you check, and presumably you are going to call so why not stick in a bet that worse hands can call too?

I really really reeeaaaaally hope you werent planning to check/fold.
Not planning on it. But who knows if I'd have called a big bet (but then would I have called a big raise?)
No, I was thinking of beting a dollar or two and realised that might mean calling a dollar or two in raise.

So I thought if let him bet I've limited the risk a bit.
And of course that limited my profit.
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Old 04-18-2006, 12:50 PM #8 (permalink)  
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He had A5 diamonds. I mean who calls pre-flop with that? Who then calls the flop and the turn with that?

So yeah, should have bet... must stop showing these guys this sort of respect.

Bad players play that kind of hand. It's got an ace, it's suited - it's hard to push poor players off when they hit top pair on the flop. Which will mostly be great for you, which is why you need to value bet their stacks away.

Remember, if you have better hands more often than they have better hands, you will win in the long run. They will win sometimes - and when they do, you can pat yourself on the back for playing the better poker and move onto to taking their money the next time.

Also, after this hand you know that this player plays dodgy hands, may overrate suited cards, and is a calling station. All useful things to know for the next time you're up against him. The one word of warning is: don't stop playing "right" poker cos you know he's a donk. Next time you might be tempted to think "oh he had A5 last time, he'll have sod all this time", bet double the pot on the river and lose to TT, you'll have scarificed the advantage you have as a better player.

(I was watching a donk raise, re-raise and push to a ridiculous degree yesterday and was hoping for a good hand to call his bluff. I found ATs, re-raised him, and called his all-in. He had AJ and took most of my stack. I made the cardinal error of playing a crappy hand too strongly because I recognised my opponent was crap. Had I made the same play with AK or a high PP, I'd have been in the money).
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(I was watching a donk raise, re-raise and push to a ridiculous degree yesterday and was hoping for a good hand to call his bluff. I found ATs, re-raised him, and called his all-in. He had AJ and took most of my stack. I made the cardinal error of playing a crappy hand too strongly because I recognised my opponent was crap. Had I made the same play with AK or a high PP, I'd have been in the money).
Holy crap, do I do this alot. I can be up 3 buyins and do this twice in a couple of hands and lose everything I've made. I tell myself "wait for the hand, and stack him" but get impatient waiting and watching this guy play to the river with garbage.
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Bet 2.50 on river.If he rasies you might be able to fold.
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Old 05-23-2006, 02:01 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Patience is a virtue. I _keep_ getting told to wait, play ABC poker and then make moves with the premium, nuts hands.

Every time, and I mean _every_ time, I get involved in a hand when I am thinking "Hell, no cards for a while, this Axs looks good" or "Dammit, that's a circuit and this KJo is looking tempting!" I get rinsed by someone that's either got the patience to wait for the nuts, or has stayed in with 72o and made something better than me on the flop.

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Patience is a virtue. I _keep_ getting told to wait, play ABC poker and then make moves with the premium, nuts hands.

Every time, and I mean _every_ time, I get involved in a hand when I am thinking "Hell, no cards for a while, this Axs looks good" or "Dammit, that's a circuit and this KJo is looking tempting!" I get rinsed by someone that's either got the patience to wait for the nuts, or has stayed in with 72o and made something better than me on the flop.

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Where is Axs in a group of starting hands? Play ABC poker at 4 tables at once and you will see enough hands to keep you busy. If you are sitting back playing 1 table then its going to take a while... Good run of cards arent due to you back to back or once every 5 minutes to keep you interested. Dont feel like poker owes you cards, mix your play with cards and playing the person. You get dealt premium hands, play them correctly, survive longer, get itm , you win... That simple.
 
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