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Old 01-03-2010, 07:48 AM     Post subject: AK in FR 2NL vs. 16/9 #1 (permalink)  
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 UTG is 16/9 over 200 hands. Aggression 45.

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MP2 ($5.34)
CO ($1.21)
Button ($5.19)
SB ($4.98)
BB ($3.69)
UTG ($7.76)
UTG+1 ($2)
Hero (MP1) ($2.98)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, K
UTG bets $0.08, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 5 folds, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.43) 9, 8, Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.28, UTG calls $0.28

Turn: ($0.99) Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.99) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.72, Hero calls ???

Pre Flop= Standard 3-bet, Correct me if my sizing is too small.

Flop: Standard C-bet

Turn: I am trying to control the size of this pot, I still have no idea what his hands is. Since It can be KK,AK,AQ,AJ,TT,JJ.

River Have no idea how to figure out if he can bluff, since giving my check on turn i could be easily bluffed.

Or am I an idiot and this isn't worth discussion and its an ez fold.

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Old 01-03-2010, 07:51 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Read this an apply it to your possible call on the end to decide if it's +EV or not http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...in-t87954.html

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Old 01-03-2010, 08:46 AM     Post subject: Re: AK in FR 2NL vs. 16/9 #3 (permalink)  
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Turn: I am trying to control the size of this pot, I still have no idea what his hands is. Since It can be KK,AK,AQ,AJ,TT,JJ.

River Have no idea how to figure out if he can bluff, since giving my check on turn i could be easily bluffed.
ok, you gave a range. I don't think it's very accurate, but you should run stove over it and see if the call is good. if you don't have poker stove then google it and download it pronto.

On the river and he has you beat about always, very occasionally you are splitting, you about never win the pot. Run various combinations of hands for villains through poker stove and see how your call looks from an EV perspective
oh, and fold.
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 01-03-2010, 11:23 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Raise bigger PF.
Flop cbet is fine I guess if he's calling a bunch of small pp's that he's folding on the flop.
T+R no reason to get any more money in imo.
Listen to spoon and form ranges for all streets then it will all be clear.

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Old 01-03-2010, 02:55 PM     Post subject: Re: AK in FR 2NL vs. 16/9 #5 (permalink)  
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Pre Flop= Standard 3-bet, Correct me if my sizing is too small.

Flop: Standard C-bet
No and no.

i think your 3b here is correct, but not because it's "standard." there are plenty of opponents that i don't 3b in this spot, so your decision should come down to a lot more than just "I HAZ AK, I CAN HAz TREE BET." consider why 3b'ing is best and which opponents you should do it against and which you shouldn't and which positions you prefer villain to be and so forth. also, your sizing is too small. i'd usually make it .22-.24, which usually isn't a huge deal in position,but it is here because we're 150bb's deep

as for flop, actually consider what hands he can have and you might laugh at yourself for just mashing the bet button without thinking this through. there are literally ZERO hands that beat us that c/f here unless you expect him to have 77 any considerable amount of the time. there are certain opponents we can cbet here for value, but the fact that there's a queen on the board puts a damper on that.

i know that these are the last things you had questions about, but i think pointing out the fact that you're skipping over parts of the hand because they seem "standard" is likely a leak.
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Old 01-03-2010, 03:22 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 I do mash the C-bet button too often.

I ran it through pokerstove and with that flop I am at 23% so a c bet isn't the best idea here. Unless he is a total manic, which my stats indicate he isn't then continuing with this hand is just bad. But giving up on the flop is something I am not comfortable with.

Board: 9h 8d Qd

23.308%{ AhKs }
76.692%{ 99+, AJs+, AQo+ }

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