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Old 05-03-2008, 02:41 PM     Post subject: AK, flopped TP, deep stacked #1 (permalink)  

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POKERSTARS GAME #17170119240: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/05/03 - 10:31:03 (ET)
Table 'Hedwig III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Trimmann ($3.48 in chips)
Seat 3: ajopo ($4.24 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($3.50 in chips)
Seat 5: hermoso485 ($3.56 in chips)
Seat 6: sbruun ($5.20 in chips)
hermoso485: posts small blind $0.01
sbruun: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Kh]
Trimmann: raises $0.06 to $0.08
ajopo: folds
Hero: raises $0.16 to $0.24
hermoso485: folds
sbruun: folds
Trimmann: calls $0.16
*** FLOP *** [5h Ts Ac]
Trimmann: checks
Hero: bets $0.35
Trimmann: raises $0.45 to $0.80
Hero: calls $0.45
*** TURN *** [5h Ts Ac] [3s]
Trimmann: bets $0.50
Hero: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [5h Ts Ac 3s] [8s]
Trimmann: bets $1.94 and is all-in
Hero: ???

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Old 05-03-2008, 04:16 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 05-03-2008, 04:23 PM #3 (permalink)  
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[ ] Deep stacked
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Old 05-03-2008, 04:27 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 05-03-2008, 04:50 PM     Post subject: Re: AK, flopped TP, deep stacked #5 (permalink)  
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I had a similar situation.

POKERSTARS GAME #17163707632: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/05/03 - 01:16:46 (ET)
Table 'Marmulla IV' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: pkrplayer85 ($4.94 in chips)
Seat 3: immoraliste ($6.55 in chips)
Seat 4: silverly2 ($1.14 in chips)
Seat 5: animal_chin9 ($4.14 in chips)
Seat 6: scs01740 ($1.16 in chips)
Seat 7: aytes04 ($2.10 in chips)
Seat 8: Hunter Play? ($2.53 in chips)
Seat 9: lifepulse ($3.67 in chips)
immoraliste: posts small blind $0.01
silverly2: posts big blind $0.02
dotmatrix7: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to animal_chin9 [As Qc]
animal_chin9: raises $0.08 to $0.10
scs01740: folds
aytes04: folds
Hunter Play?: raises $0.10 to $0.20
lifepulse: folds
pkrplayer85: folds
immoraliste: folds
silverly2: folds
animal_chin9: calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9c 3c]
animal_chin9: checks
Hunter Play?: bets $0.42
animal_chin9: calls $0.42
*** TURN *** [Ac 9c 3c] [5s]
animal_chin9: checks
Hunter Play?: bets $1
animal_chin9: raises $1 to $2
Hunter Play?: calls $0.91 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Ac 9c 3c 5s] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
animal_chin9: shows [As Qc] (a flush, Ace high)
Hunter Play?: mucks hand
animal_chin9 collected $4.84 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.09 | Rake $0.25
Board [Ac 9c 3c 5s Kc]
Seat 2: pkrplayer85 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: immoraliste (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: silverly2 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: animal_chin9 showed [As Qc] and won ($4.84) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: scs01740 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: aytes04 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Hunter Play? mucked [Qd Qh]
Seat 9: lifepulse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 05-03-2008, 11:39 PM #6 (permalink)  

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Using the hand converter makes going through hands much easier.

To OP, for me that's an insta-call

To animal_chin, playing AQo in a 3bet pot out of position is not a whole lot of fun. At these stakes you don't see many 3bets and if there are any they are usually big hands like high pocket pairs JJ+, AK, AQ and maybe the odd time AJ. If you're planning on getting all the money in on this hand I would bet out on the flop and call a raise.

Running some hands through pokerstove.
AQo vs JJ+, AJ+ is 42% to 58%
AQo vs JJ+, AQ+ is 33% to 67%

But when that flop comes you're a 68% favorite. So I tend to lead out. There's enough players who will pay off with something like KK, QQ, JJ.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:54 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I'm joining the call camp. You're most likely up against a worse A. AT, A8 and TT are possible, but so are AQ, A7, JJ etc - all told there are more hands he would have played this way that you beat than there are hands that beat you. And your pot odds are something like $2 to win the $5 in the pot so that's a clear call.

My only worry in this hand is the flop check-raise which is near-min. It causes me to slightly favour an AT, TT or 55 type hand - but I don't think that really outweighs the pot odds you are given, considering all the other possible hands.

Now, a poster earlier indicated that this is not deep stacked. I think this is worth another comment or two. Technically it IS deep stacked, because effective stacks are 175bb. However, this hand doesn't PLAY deep stacked - it plays weakly like a micro-stakes game where people don't know the value of hands. In analysing the hand you wouldn't take deep stack play concepts into consideration.
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Now, a poster earlier indicated that this is not deep stacked. I think this is worth another comment or two. Technically it IS deep stacked, because effective stacks are 175bb.
IMO deepstacked is >200bb, but thats being pedantic.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:33 PM #9 (permalink)  
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