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Old 09-30-2010, 11:55 PM     Post subject: AK @ 10NL FR #1 (permalink)  
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 15/13/ with 5.1% 3 bet and a 30% attempt to steal, another words this guy is situational aware. This is over a 150 hands.


Over 4 times he has folded to 3 bets 100% of the time. In some ways my my preflop 3 bet maybe not the best idea. Since he didn't shove, it is less likely he has AA or KK but that doesn't mean anything. All I know is taht I can assume he has some pockets (55-77) along with KQs, and AQs (if he is a bad, though his stats indicated otherwise).

Flop donk bet confused me, but maybe he firing with air, in any case, he has limited number of draws and raising here will folded out the few hands I beat. Same logic for the turn.

River is an obvious check right? The only thing I beat that he calls with is AQ.

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UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($18.77)
MP1 ($10)
Hero (MP2) ($12.61)
CO ($9.79)
Button ($11.39)
SB ($13.20)
BB ($9.98)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, K
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.10, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.35) 4, K, 9 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.35) Q (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($11.35) 7 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:06 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 the hell is with all the donk leading in 3b pots at this level

id just check it back vbet seems thin and i really want to see his hand
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:13 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Check behind.

his river checking range = 99+,AJs+,KJs+,AJo+,KJo+,JTo,JTs

his calling range = QQ+,99,AQs+,KJs+,AQo+,KJo+,JTo,JTs


Board: 4s Ks 9c Qs 7h
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 63.636% 58.18% 05.45% 32 3.00 { QQ+, 99, AQs+, KJs+, JTs, AQo+, KJo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 36.364% 30.91% 05.45% 17 3.00 { AdKh }
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 It is amazing man. It really does help posting this hand, because while I was playing I am confused. But now this seems such an easy check back. Like literally only one hand calls my bet that I beat AQ. Does anyone disagree? Can you help me list them? The only other option is betting something like 2 and folding to a shove. But that just seems dumb, actually it is dumb. Check is the best thing here.

Anyone have thoughts on preflop 3 bet?
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:27 AM #5 (permalink)  
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3 bet all day, 4 folds is not enough to draw conclusions.

IMO, if you think he only calls the 3 bet with a tighter range, then you can take out JT from his range and you have just a bit over 50% equity vs his calling range, then consider the fact hes probably not checking his flushes, you have enough over 50% vs his calling range to bet fold like $4.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:37 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 you can probably 3bet/fold quite comfortably in these positions at this level.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:43 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Anyone have thoughts on preflop 3 bet?
I think the 3bet is better than a call because you are in MP1, so it chases out other hands behind you, plus the UTG+1 will let you know if you are crushed by raising his KK/AA (probably?).

But his UTG+1 range is so tight that you aren't going to get much to fold. If his average stats are 15/13 and he steals 30% from late position, then his UTG+1 PFR% is probably closer to 6%, which gives him an initial PFR range of something like: { 88+,AJs+,KQs,AQo+ }. 3betting will just reduce that range even further after he calls.

I think the problem here is that you won't really win any big pots with AK, but you can easily lose some big pots if you aren't careful. So even if you flop TPTK, you need to accept that you can't get 3 streets of value from worse hands.

I think this hand was played well, though, assuming you checked the river.
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Old 10-01-2010, 02:55 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 Yeah, this hand wasn't played well, but I am happy I figured out the correct action afterwards. I shovedoodle. He flips 99.
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Old 10-01-2010, 03:02 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 do you only think logically when you're not playing or what? I don't get it.
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do you only think logically when you're not playing or what? I don't get it.
easier said than done. and villain did do a confusing donk lead o.O.. glad to hear you learned from your play though OP
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