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Old 03-03-2009, 05:50 PM     Post subject: AK in 4 bet pot - how awful is my flop play? #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain was 32/24/1 over 42 hands - his 3 bet was 25% over these.
Pre flop I was happy to get it in sicne he seemed lose and a little insane. I don't think I've ever seen a flop in a 4 bet pot without being deep before so this spot cofused me.

Do I take his check as a chance to snatch a free turn vs his strong range or do I try to grab any FE I can and get it in before the turn ruins my equity further?

I've stoved some figures and Vs [1010-AA AK AQs] I'm 31%. Since he's lose I thought this was a fair enough range but correct me If I'm wrong. So I'm getting almost the right price to ship and If I can fold out AK then even better.

But is this just spewy since he folds hardly ever and has given us a chance to make our hand?


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Hero (UTG) ($51.85)
MP ($3.70)
Button ($19.70)
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K
Hero bets $0.80, 2 folds, SB raises $2.50, 1 fold, Hero raises $6.50, SB calls $4.70

Flop: ($14.80) 8, 5, 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $44.55 (All-In)

Total pot: $14.80

 
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:45 PM #2 (permalink)  
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why are you shoving instead of b/f?
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:53 PM #3 (permalink)  
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why are you shoving instead of b/f?
How can I possibly b/f? Take a look at villains stack size here. He has like $13 left on the flop with $14.80 in the pot.

 
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:06 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 I don't see how you have any fold equity here at all. The only hand that you want to fold here that actually is folding is AK, but there are only 9 combos of that, so it's only makes up 20% of his range (45 combos total). You don't have fold equity against AQ b/c you're beating AQ, and I don't think you have fold equity against any pp b/c the pot is giving him 3-1, so I don't see him laying down TT-AA here.

I would check behind, I think there are a lot of scare cards on the turn (Q, Xd, meh on a 7) that will up your FE, and you might still have 6 outs.
 
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