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abysil
Old 05-15-2010, 03:59 PM     Post subject: AJ OOP on AQx flop #1 (permalink)  
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Another hand I wasn't sure about, but played as best I thought. Villains stats are 22/16, so his 3bet with position on me leads me to believe he raising a small range like JJ+ or AQo+. My bet on the flop was to induce a raise to see if my J kicker was good, but since he just called i checked the rest of the way for a cheap showdown.

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SB ($1.01)
BB ($2.11)
Hero (UTG) ($2.95)
MP ($5.14)
CO ($3.05)
Button ($1.94)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, J
Hero bets $0.08, MP raises to $0.24, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.51) 4, Q, A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, MP calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.11) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($1.11) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Total pot: $1.11 | Rake: $0.07

Results:
Hero had A, J (one pair, Aces).
MP had K, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $1.04
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:02 PM #2 (permalink)  

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open fold flop. If you are accurate with his range he has you totally buggard
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:06 PM #3 (permalink)  
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dont like your flop line but the river is obviously a valuebet, he turned his hand strength face-up on by checking back the turn
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:09 PM #4 (permalink)  

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dont like your flop line but the river is obviously a valuebet, he turned his hand strength face-up on by checking back the turn
Yea i didn't even think about that when i read the op my only thoughts were why is he betting in to range that crushes him
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:13 PM #5 (permalink)  

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oh and i meant check fold in my first post. Since we saw the flop which was a mistake imo. I would check then bet the turn and river if he checks behind on the flop. I think a flop check by villain polarizes his range to one that we beat.
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Old 05-16-2010, 04:39 PM #6 (permalink)  
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If you think his range for 3 betting you in this spot is AQ+,JJ+ why are you calling pre flop???????

River value bet of around 1/2 pot seems good.
 
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Old 05-16-2010, 04:43 PM #7 (permalink)  
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IMO fold AQ+AJ pre
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Old 05-16-2010, 05:45 PM #8 (permalink)  
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as played bet the river for value all day long... he tells you on the turn he either has a weak A or shitty PP or missed FD
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:07 PM #9 (permalink)  
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So general consensus is value bet river as played, should have checked the flop, but shouldn't have been in the hand in the first place.
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:57 PM #10 (permalink)  
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So general consensus is value bet river as played, should have checked the flop, but shouldn't have been in the hand in the first place.
Well the first raise was good.
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:04 AM #11 (permalink)  
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well, preflop fold is questionable i think. I mean AJo does not flop very well usually and is way behind his 3betting range I'm sure. AJs atleast gives you more chances at making a hand. But I'd say more times then not it's probably a better fold then call to a 3bet from someone who is playing pretty tight
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:04 PM #12 (permalink)  

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well, preflop fold is questionable i think. I mean AJo does not flop very well usually and is way behind his 3betting range I'm sure. AJs atleast gives you more chances at making a hand. But I'd say more times then not it's probably a better fold then call to a 3bet from someone who is playing pretty tight
I don't really think stacks are deep enough to flush hunt. Personally unless it was some kinda retarded min 3-bet and i was getting like 60-1 i would never call a 3-bet with Aj off .
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Old 05-17-2010, 02:12 PM #13 (permalink)  
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right.. that's why i said more times then not it's a fold
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:39 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Fold to the 3bet. Villain is a reg that 3bet your UTG. There isn't a reasonable flop you will be happy to continue on. IMO the open is fine. AJ is one of the most costly hands to use vs a regs value 3bet range!!!(which a 3bet to your utg usually is). As played, I'd valuebet the river for about 2/3rds.
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