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mike4066

10-29-2004, 05:24 PM Post subject: Aggression #'s in poker tracker.

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Aggression number in poker tracker.

I play very tight preflop, and I believe I'm a bit of a maniac post flop. Do my aggression numbers on the flop/turn seem high to you guys?

This is over 10k hands in full ring games. 8+ people.

Aggression #'s

Preflop .58
Flop 4.24
Turn 4.18
river 1.36

Overall 1.62

My flop/turn #seem a bit high to you guys?
I'll look for some hands later to post with.

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fishstick

10-29-2004, 10:19 PM

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not sure which game you're talking about, but here are my stats for comparison. i feel like i border on a RAg (rock aggressive) at limit (vp$ip = 14.91), and am a solid TAg at the no limit full table ring game (vp$ip = 18.21).

no limit

preflop --.59
flop ------6.67
turn -----3.20
river ----2.60
overall --1.34

limit

preflop --.64
flop ------2.23
turn -----2.33
river ----2.48
overall --1.35

if your stats are for no limit, they mirror mine, which i would explain as playing aggressively when you've flopped something, or are trying to semibluff.

if your stats are for limit, is it that you're initially playing really aggressively, and then slowing down on the river?

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foxhound

10-30-2004, 11:11 PM

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Mine are
PF -
Flop - 1.73
Turn - 1.91
River - 1.86

Comments? Im new

mike4066

10-31-2004, 01:57 AM

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well fishstick, i was tired of being check raised on the river

But i definatly think i'm really over aggressive on the flop/turn its costing me money..

stuck

10-31-2004, 01:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fishstick

i feel like i border on a RAg (rock aggressive) at limit (vp$ip = 14.91),

Why so rock-ish? you could be making a lot more money

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mike4066

10-31-2004, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by stuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishstick

i feel like i border on a RAg (rock aggressive) at limit (vp$ip = 14.91),

Why so rock-ish? you could be making a lot more money

14.91 % VP$IP?
If I went 14.91 % VP$IP I'd feel l ike a maniac

With a lump of coal I could squeeze diamonds out of my ass i'm so tight in low limit

Fnord

10-31-2004, 02:09 AM

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5/10 6 max 1,360 hands

flop: 3.25
turn: 2.85
river: 2.49

Remember, aggression isn't just about betting/raising. It's also about being able to laydown a loser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

mike4066

10-31-2004, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fnord

Remember, aggression isn't just about betting/raising. It's also about being able to laydown a loser.

Thanks for bringing that up.
I keep thinking i'm better than these fish and refuse to lay a hand down against them.

This month I've taken about 4% more hands to the river than I did last month, I'm playing about 9k hands a month.

Last month 2.7BB/100 hands.
This month .5/100 hands.

I need a break from poker.....

Fnord

10-31-2004, 03:35 AM

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Case and point, I was showing my father 6 max.

.5/1 PS 6 max, a couple soft spots but not a very good table.
99 in the BB.
EP Raises
MP Cold calls
I call.

Flop is JT4 rainbow.

EP bets, MP calls, I fold.

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stuck

10-31-2004, 03:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mike4066

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Remember, aggression isn't just about betting/raising. It's also about being able to laydown a loser.

Thanks for bringing that up.
I keep thinking i'm better than these fish and refuse to lay a hand down against them.

Yeah, after having two losing (a lot) sessions, last night i figured it was time to evaluate what was going wrong. I wasn't laying down nearly as much as I should have. I was winning pots with good cards, but when I was beat soundly, I was still hitting the call button with second pair.... very fishy of me. Or LAggy, as I was raising sometimes

As soon as I started laying down more hands, my profits got out of the red, and I'm way up over the past two days.

Fishstick - you should try playing 6-max using fnord's starting hands that he posted a few days ago as a guideline. More variance than rock-play at a full table, but much more potential for profits as the players are often weak. (Thank you very much, fnord, by the way. Those have worked great so far! I had sat down at them before, but wasn't sure of the better hands to play)

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bigred

10-31-2004, 03:13 PM

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Just another thread indicating that I really need to buy that poker tracker. I just don't want to fork out $50, sigh.

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10-31-2004, 03:27 PM

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Just another thread indicating that I really need to buy that poker tracker. I just don't want to fork out $50, sigh.

use your bonus money

aka_red

11-15-2004, 12:11 AM

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how do u guys find these numbers out plz
thx

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mike4066

11-15-2004, 12:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aka_red

how do u guys find these numbers out plz
thx

in poker tracker, under the "General Info. Tab"
click "More Detail"

fishstick

11-16-2004, 12:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mike4066

With a lump of coal I could squeeze diamonds out of my ass i'm so tight in low limit

that is just too funny!

and mike, if you enter a hand before me, the first thing i think is "if i play this, i know mike's going to be raising post flop, so how much do i really like my hand?"

POST FLOP MANIAC! :P

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aka_red

11-25-2004, 06:47 PM

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i hav enoticed i am also like that a maniac on the flop cuz i want to bet out all the draws latly i have been playing loose-semitight preflop and maniac on the flop and i am seeing huge fluctuations in my bankroll when im doing well im tighter preflop but still maniac on flop but am i just finding retards enough to call me? example i usually bet pot with tptk is this good for maximizing my profit? plz help <3

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