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**iSHACKABUKU** · 10-19-2004 09:23 PM

First im not sure if this has to go in home games, because this has to do with playing in person not online. My apologys if i am wrong, but i came here for a strategy advice.

I play with a regular group of friends, usually small tournaments of 6 people winner takes all. On this particular night I had collected the majority of ALL the chips. With one person still against me heads up. Now this person almost always folded when i bet pre flop, very frusterating. This person is playing a very tight game. Now after consistantly better pre flop he evenutally must bet into my game. Although my luck has changed and im not catching the best hands, but neither the worst. I find the only way i can get a bet down is to re raise him, which usually means he has the better hand. All in all he has a good tactic i guess with some luck on his side calling some bluffs. Now i guess the question is how do i get him to slip up? Play more agressivly constantly? Force him to do or die?

**RD Olivaw** · 10-19-2004 09:40 PM

What is the blind structure like? By the time you are heads up - with such a big chip lead, he should be getting eaten alive by the blinds to keep folding like that.

**bigred** · 10-20-2004 04:53 AM

I agree, the blinds should be eating him. With that type of player I'd normally take his blinds and fold after the flop if I don't have a really good hand and he bets because he must have something. I love slowplaying tight players as well. They haven't played a hand in so long that even when they get something semi playable they play it for more then it should be played. You can slightly reraise and he'll think you're bulliyng him, might evne push him all-in.

**Radashack** · 10-20-2004 05:08 AM

lol this is my faviorate to be heads up against. The way i win these is to tune up my agression, when he switches gears and starts calling then I'll start throwing in all in's on Ax two face cards Pairs, ect. Make him make the tough calls until I can see his pattern of weakness then snap him

. Exspecially when they start thinking they are "catching up"

**iSHACKABUKU** · 10-20-2004 01:38 PM

You guys are right, i guess i knew the answer all along! The fact is i had been playing for about 6 hours and drinking (lol) I guess I lost my patience. I should have played very tight with such a good lead, and waited untill he lost his patience and I caught the right cards.

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**RD Olivaw** · 10-20-2004 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Ripptyde

IMO if you have the huge stack advantage, you force him to play by slamming down pre flop raises no matter what your hole cards. Wear his blinds down and wait for a chance to take him out when you do have the good starting hand. Never give the short stacks free cards...make em pay for em...dearly. Pump in pre flop bets of 3Xbb or 4Xbb every hand sooner or later he makes a desperation move and you get a free shot to take him out.

This is so true.. I'm always amazed when I'm short stacked and the table lets me see the flop for cheap while I'm on the blinds. If you have the stack, you should always make a short stack pay to see anything. This is especially true heads up. If they push and you have crap, you can fold for relatively cheap. If they make the mistake to do that when you have something, you get a nice pot an eliminate someone...

**iSHACKABUKU** · 10-20-2004 04:53 PM

well originally I had been better consistantly pre flop, and he hit a run of good cards, and called me on some bluffs where i tried to muscle him. He got a BIT of his chips back and i started to shy away.

Thanks for the advice tho, with a comanding lead it makes sense to make a short stack PAY PAY PAY, i know this because some of my friends have done this to me!

**mike4066** · 10-20-2004 04:53 PM

Heads up, If you have someone who is weak you can DOMINATE them easily..

Case in point, small $10 buy-in tourney with friends. I get headsup at the end with the chip leader, he has me by 7:1 easily. While we were setting up to go heads up he said he hated heads up play, and oculd never play well. VA-VA-VOOOM! I pushed hard and fast. He folded ALOT.

I raised EVERYTHING, if he raised, I went all-in over top with any Ace. He folded almost everything. By the time he had a playable hand I had almost evened the stacks. I Picked up QQ and he pushed with AKs I moved in he called my ladies held up. Now it was 7:1 chip lead my favor. (he gave up and quit)

**iSHACKABUKU** · 10-20-2004 05:33 PM

In this particular game i ended up against a new comer who was pretty much the only new comer, who i had only played against once before, in that particular game neither of us won

10-19-2004 09:23 PM #1
iSHACKABUKU View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Oct 2004 Posts 26 Location Toronto	advice First im not sure if this has to go in home games, because this has to do with playing in person not online. My apologys if i am wrong, but i came here for a strategy advice. I play with a regular group of friends, usually small tournaments of 6 people winner takes all. On this particular night I had collected the majority of ALL the chips. With one person still against me heads up. Now this person almost always folded when i bet pre flop, very frusterating. This person is playing a very tight game. Now after consistantly better pre flop he evenutally must bet into my game. Although my luck has changed and im not catching the best hands, but neither the worst. I find the only way i can get a bet down is to re raise him, which usually means he has the better hand. All in all he has a good tactic i guess with some luck on his side calling some bluffs. Now i guess the question is how do i get him to slip up? Play more agressivly constantly? Force him to do or die?
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10-19-2004 09:40 PM #2
RD Olivaw View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2004 Posts 173 Location Dallas,TX	What is the blind structure like? By the time you are heads up - with such a big chip lead, he should be getting eaten alive by the blinds to keep folding like that.

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10-20-2004 04:53 AM #3
bigred View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message PROFESSIONAL TROLL Join Date Sep 2004 Posts 14,312 Location Nest of Douchebags	I agree, the blinds should be eating him. With that type of player I'd normally take his blinds and fold after the flop if I don't have a really good hand and he bets because he must have something. I love slowplaying tight players as well. They haven't played a hand in so long that even when they get something semi playable they play it for more then it should be played. You can slightly reraise and he'll think you're bulliyng him, might evne push him all-in.

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10-20-2004 05:08 AM #4
Radashack View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Sep 2004 Posts 359	lol this is my faviorate to be heads up against. The way i win these is to tune up my agression, when he switches gears and starts calling then I'll start throwing in all in's on Ax two face cards Pairs, ect. Make him make the tough calls until I can see his pattern of weakness then snap him . Exspecially when they start thinking they are "catching up"

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iSHACKABUKU View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Oct 2004 Posts 26 Location Toronto	fsdfs You guys are right, i guess i knew the answer all along! The fact is i had been playing for about 6 hours and drinking (lol) I guess I lost my patience. I should have played very tight with such a good lead, and waited untill he lost his patience and I caught the right cards.
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RD Olivaw View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2004 Posts 173 Location Dallas,TX	Originally Posted by Ripptyde IMO if you have the huge stack advantage, you force him to play by slamming down pre flop raises no matter what your hole cards. Wear his blinds down and wait for a chance to take him out when you do have the good starting hand. Never give the short stacks free cards...make em pay for em...dearly. Pump in pre flop bets of 3Xbb or 4Xbb every hand sooner or later he makes a desperation move and you get a free shot to take him out. This is so true.. I'm always amazed when I'm short stacked and the table lets me see the flop for cheap while I'm on the blinds. If you have the stack, you should always make a short stack pay to see anything. This is especially true heads up. If they push and you have crap, you can fold for relatively cheap. If they make the mistake to do that when you have something, you get a nice pot an eliminate someone...

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10-20-2004 04:53 PM #8
iSHACKABUKU View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Oct 2004 Posts 26 Location Toronto	fdsf well originally I had been better consistantly pre flop, and he hit a run of good cards, and called me on some bluffs where i tried to muscle him. He got a BIT of his chips back and i started to shy away. Thanks for the advice tho, with a comanding lead it makes sense to make a short stack PAY PAY PAY, i know this because some of my friends have done this to me!
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10-20-2004 04:53 PM #9
mike4066 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2003 Posts 1,663	Heads up, If you have someone who is weak you can DOMINATE them easily.. Case in point, small $10 buy-in tourney with friends. I get headsup at the end with the chip leader, he has me by 7:1 easily. While we were setting up to go heads up he said he hated heads up play, and oculd never play well. VA-VA-VOOOM! I pushed hard and fast. He folded ALOT. I raised EVERYTHING, if he raised, I went all-in over top with any Ace. He folded almost everything. By the time he had a playable hand I had almost evened the stacks. I Picked up QQ and he pushed with AKs I moved in he called my ladies held up. Now it was 7:1 chip lead my favor. (he gave up and quit)

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10-20-2004 05:33 PM #10
iSHACKABUKU View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Oct 2004 Posts 26 Location Toronto	cvxdf In this particular game i ended up against a new comer who was pretty much the only new comer, who i had only played against once before, in that particular game neither of us won
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